Ticket Points Sales Tracking

Prestwich_Blue said:
It was already a closed shop. People bought tickets whether they had any intention of going to a game or not. The difference was that they got the points, which enabled them to have first pick of the tickets.

And you talk about the integrity of the points system yet you say they passed on the tickets to other blues, regardless of how many points they had or even if they were even season ticket holders. Yet you'll moan about OSCs getting 2 tickets per branch and those potentially going to non-season ticket holders.

And as for that last paragraph, it's absolute bullshit. After 40 years of doing away games I'm just not that bothered anymore. The other three people were on the Ticketing working group go to pretty well every away game so there was literally zero self interest involved with them.

But still gobshites and fuckwits like you, who have no knowledge of the background or discussions, insist we made decisions based purely on self interest.

And united fans absolutely support ticket collection at away games as they're keen to ensure that only the people who get the tickets actually use them. They're complaining bitterly that united are refusing to send staff to away games to support that system.
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I don't mention anything about the integrity of the points system. In fact, I think the points system overall is a load of shite. I've not mentioned anything about OSC's either but now that you mention it, that's a load of shite too.

Name call all you want but people have long memories Colin and you've been called out on more than one platform for your role in the above. You are correct about no one having any knowledge or background of any discussions because none of the minutes from meetings that you attended were made public despite the whole point of the City Matters Group was to be transparent.

You talk about ticket collection but that's not been properly implemented and it's only historically been implemented intermittently, Celtic away being the obvious one that comes to mind.

As for United and their fans, fuck them and fuck their club
 
Stopping ticket points for away games was just a great opportunity to divert attention away from the real touts, the club.

Not one City fan who got their away tickets through the points system was flogging them for over face value. Instead, they might, every now and then, have got their mate a ticket for a European away game that they couldn't attend. You do not get 30,000 points by doing this regularly. You get it by commitment.

But this was seen as such a terrible crime in the eyes of the secret handshake crew at City Matters at the time, that instead of focusing on the dwindling amounts of tickets going to actual Season Ticket Holders for away games, they focused on the points instead. In doing so, it diverted attention and the club started to hand even more tickets out to corporate fans and, much worse, started selling them off to 3rd party ticket sites.

So well done all involved. You really did a great job. The atmosphere was outstanding at Liverpool away last season. The constant noise of camera shutters from the away end made a great din.

Please note, this isn't a dig at the current City Matters people. Or not all of them anyway. The season ticket holders representative refused to sign a letter regarding ticket price increases just incase the club struck her off. Soft. But Alex is doing a great job on this topic and many, many others including the Istanbul debacle.
 
Quinny851 said:
I don't mention anything about the integrity of the points system. In fact, I think the points system overall is a load of shite. I've not mentioned anything about OSC's either but now that you mention it, that's a load of shite too.

Name call all you want but people have long memories Colin and you've been called out on more than one platform for your role in the above. You are correct about no one having any knowledge or background of any discussions because none of the minutes from meetings that you attended were made public despite the whole point of the City Matters Group was to be transparent.

You talk about ticket collection but that's not been properly implemented and it's only historically been implemented intermittently, Celtic away being the obvious one that comes to mind.

As for United and their fans, fuck them and fuck their club
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I'm not going to be polite to people who impugn my integrity and that of my CM colleagues, or accuses us of acting purely in self-interest. That's far more abusive than a name or two. If you want to have an intelligent discussion then I'll have one but if you just throw out unfounded insults then that's what you'll get back.

We had the evidence from the club and ALL the City Matters group agreed it was the right thing to do. It was the right decision and nothing or no one will ever convince me otherwise. And I think all nine of my colleagues when we took that decision would agree.

But I do agree the points system is a load of shite, and we tried to get the club to change it. They're still talking about it as far as I know. And while I completely agree with the 'fuck united fans and their club' comment, at least they're trying to protect the integrity of their ticket allocations, whereby people allocated tickets use them, rather than arguing for an unfair system where people got points when they had no intention of attending a game by giving tickets to people who wouldn't have qualified.
 
For every away match, their are roughly 1500 people getting tickets who also don't qualify but they don't seem to come under the same scrutiny ,from within the club as the loyalty point holders.
Colin,just out of interest how did the club the club gather the information as to the amount of tickets being used by different people rather than the owner for away matches?
 
Chappie said:
For every away match, their are roughly 1500 people getting tickets who also don't qualify but they don't seem to come under the same scrutiny ,from within the club as the loyalty point holders.
Colin,just out of interest how did the club the club gather the information as to the amount of tickets being used by different people rather than the owner for away matches?
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The number of tickets available to loyalty points holders does seem to have been reduced. I've got just over 20000 loyalty points and in the last few years I've fallen down the pecking order, with many games selling out before it reaches my points, which wasn't the case a few years ago. There's also a significant increase in tourists with away tickets.
 
I always thought that the club effectively sold the away allocations on behalf of the home club, whoever we were playing. How can they then pass them on to third party at an inflated cost?? The very definition of touting.
 
Chappie said:
For every away match, their are roughly 1500 people getting tickets who also don't qualify but they don't seem to come under the same scrutiny ,from within the club as the loyalty point holders.
Colin,just out of interest how did the club the club gather the information as to the amount of tickets being used by different people rather than the owner for away matches?
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And the 1500 who don't qualify can pass them onto who ever they want. Plus if pick up in destination ever comes in, that lot will be excluded! The only issue here is city screwing us all over, giving point holders less tickets!
 
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