Tino Livramento

[WallyA]

This deal seems dead.

We move on.

We can make the RB work right now with a few players who all "do the job" in different ways, like Nunes as a wide option, Lewis inverting, or Khus/Akanji as part of a back 3.

Next year we should go for Adam Wharton to replace Kovacic for HG quota.

Bah/Reis will eventually come in for Akanji.

Echeverri eventually replaces Bernardo Silva.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

Dead? bet its not even started.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Dead? bet its not even started.

It only got started on Bluemoon. Nowhere else.

 

[CΛL]

It only got started on Bluemoon. Nowhere else.

Loads of articles linking us tbf

 

[Tugay One Cup]

You can be confident about Khusanov not being a right back on the strength of half a dozen matches then?

You can be confident about Khusanov being a right back on the strength of half a dozen matches then?

Let's face it, the only reason any of you suggested he can do a job there is because he has pace.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

I haven’t suggested playing him there at all but I haven’t ruled anything out because we haven’t seen enough of him yet. I have seen plenty of Nico O’Reilly though and had never seen him play as a left back. Maybe Pep played him there as an idea you gave him. What a genius you must be.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

I haven’t suggested playing him there at all but I haven’t ruled anything out because we haven’t seen enough of him yet. I have seen plenty of Nico O’Reilly though and had never seen him play as a left back. Maybe Pep played him there as an idea you gave him. What a genius you must be.

I don't mean to be rude but please stop yapping and make a coherent point.

 

[strudelslol]

The sad thing is there’s barely any good HG players.

I was thinking about how insane it is that Newcastle fans want 80-100 mil for him.
Like what happened to the world
If we’re paying stupid money I would get Hakimi then fill the HG quota some other way.
Trafford, MGW or
Aina as a stop gap then find the next amazing RB

We could rationalise the 80 mil and say he could be our Walker and play for the next 10 years. So it makes sense. But it’s still ridiculous.
Livramento still plays for the u21
MGW isn’t even a starter on the NT
Wharton is decent but we already have that position stacked
Eze isn’t needed
Rogers ain’t better than any of our players
Madueke is pointless
Bowen is a bagsman but he’s great for West Ham not sure about us.

You get the picture. Finding our best HG player sounds incredibly hard as you say. Can’t get around overpaying. Just have to hold it and move on

Yeah fully agree, like I say, unenviable job.

Can't really see a way around it without bloating the squad of rotational players, or bringing someone in for competition and unintentionally push someone else out of the door by doing so.

 

[city!!]

You can be confident about Khusanov being a right back on the strength of half a dozen matches then?

Let's face it, the only reason any of you suggested he can do a job there is because he has pace.

To be fair Walker's only discernible attributes were his pace and strength and it made him arguably the best right in the world for a few years. Take it away from him and he was in the discussion for worst premier league player this season. Maybe it's all you need haha

 

[Tugay One Cup]

To be fair Walker's only discernible attributes were his pace and strength and it made him arguably the best right in the world for a few years. Take it away from him and he was in the discussion for worst premier league player this season. Maybe it's all you need haha

They defend very differently. Walker waits and dares his opponent to make the first move before outmuscling and/or outpacing them. Khusanov charges in all guns blazing.

I don't think he'd have much of a problem with straight line runners but agile wingers with super quick feet could tie him in knots.

 

[youngbob]

And now I’m going to laugh at you for quoting yourself. Obviously there is zero reason a player would want to move to City from Newcastle. In champions league, dirty oil money owners. Same exact clubs basically, right?

I think if people laugh at an opinion you've posted then you've got every right to call those people out when it eventually becomes apparent that the opinion was correct. If Newcastle had finished 6th we'd be in a much better place to take Livramento, but they've just qualified for the Champions League again after winning a major trophy - there's no reason for Newcastle to sell him and there's even less of a reason for Livramento to agitate for a move. This was the case three weeks ago and it's the case now. It was never going to happen and it was fair enough to point out that it was never going to happen, so please forgive me for giving it back a bit considering I was laughed out the room for stating something entirely reasonable.

 

[CΛL]

I think if people laugh at an opinion you've posted then you've got every right to call those people out when it eventually becomes apparent that the opinion was correct. If Newcastle had finished 6th we'd be in a much better place to take Livramento, but they've just qualified for the Champions League again after winning a major trophy - there's no reason for Newcastle to sell him and there's even less of a reason for Livramento to agitate for a move. This was the case three weeks ago and it's the case now. It was never going to happen and it was fair enough to point out that it was never going to happen, so please forgive me for giving it back a bit considering I was laughed out the room for stating something entirely reasonable.

I doubt it isn’t happening because he doesn’t want to move, it’s more than likely he would want to come to the most dominant club in the country over the past 14 years.

I also don’t think a move is out of the question, when we have the entire transfer window yet to go.

Not that I would pay the money mentioned for him.

 

[King Jay]

I think the thing is that Newcastle is just unwilling to sell. Of course there is PSR but they don’t NEED to sell especially a HG in one of the hardest position to actually fill with quality.
Also they have high ambition obviously. Livramento is nice to have but I think this is another Guimaires case and the club will realize that Newcastle is our Leverkusen while we are Munich.

 

[Craig]

If being a "natural footballer" was important we'd be going into our 8th season of Joao Cancelo being the starting RB.

I like Livramento, but I don't know why any City fan would give a shit about "natural footballing ability" when Pep would not hesitate to call Walker one of the most important players he's had in any team he's managed.

Professional football is about being effective in a team, not having a great first touch. Walker and his limited footballing ability was the lynchpin of our defence (the best team in English football history) for nearly a decade, Livramento will be increidbly lucky to have a career that amounts to half of that so what you're getting out of disparaging him for a 22 year old who's done nothing yet beats me.

We should get Livramento because we need a fullback and he looks a good one, but if there was a 22 year old Kyle Walker clone knocking around Pep would immediately ask the club to spend £100m on him and his poor footballing ability.

I was replying to someone who said Walker was better at everything. Cancelo went because he was a knobhead and not because of what he can do on the pitch.So footballing ability means nothing in a Pep side then? You point out one player who had unbelievable physical attributes and yes it worked very well for us. Still very unusual for Pep just sign a player like that though.Livramento has good pace and physicality ( no Walker) but as i said he’s a better actual footballer which i’m sure is still important to Pep.

 

[mattcity5]

I think if people laugh at an opinion you've posted then you've got every right to call those people out when it eventually becomes apparent that the opinion was correct. If Newcastle had finished 6th we'd be in a much better place to take Livramento, but they've just qualified for the Champions League again after winning a major trophy - there's no reason for Newcastle to sell him and there's even less of a reason for Livramento to agitate for a move. This was the case three weeks ago and it's the case now. It was never going to happen and it was fair enough to point out that it was never going to happen, so please forgive me for giving it back a bit considering I was laughed out the room for stating something entirely reasonable.

It's how absolute your statement is that I have issue with.

"There's no reason for Newcastle to sell him...."

You don't know their accounts, you don't know their transfer plans, so overall you don't know this.

"... and there's even less of a reason for Livramento to agitate for a move."

There are always reasons for a player to want to leave a team of serial non-achievers, with a manager who has won one trophy ever, to join City and train with Pep at our facilities. We're best in class just about everywhere.

Granted, he may want to achieve more with them and may not want a move and they really might not need to sell, but it's a long summer and we'll see what happens.

 

[Goats left knee]

Does anyone know if we are preparing a bid?

 

[Roachy]

Does anyone know if we are preparing a bid?

Or if Newcastle are braced for one.

 

[BringBackSwales]

I doubt it isn’t happening because he doesn’t want to move, it’s more than likely he would want to come to the most dominant club in the country over the past 14 years.

I also don’t think a move is out of the question, when we have the entire transfer window yet to go.

Not that I would pay the money mentioned for him.

Another irony of a pro rag pigmob and var decision that has implications. Had Villa not been fucked over by the ref and var against the rags they would have almost certainly finished above Newcastle, Newcastle with no CL money are in a different boat financially and much more likely to sell Livramento. Clearly not what the officials intended but they do seem hell bent on giving rags and dippers decisions other teams don’t get, and the implications often go further than just the specific match manipulation.

 

[waspish]

It's how absolute your statement is that I have issue with.

"There's no reason for Newcastle to sell him...."

You don't know their accounts, you don't know their transfer plans, so overall you don't know this.

"... and there's even less of a reason for Livramento to agitate for a move."

There are always reasons for a player to want to leave a team of serial non-achievers, with a manager who has won one trophy ever, to join City and train with Pep at our facilities. We're best in class just about everywhere.

Granted, he may want to achieve more with them and may not want a move and they really might not need to sell, but it's a long summer and we'll see what happens.

Every players has a price like Alvarez did for us! Do you think if Newcastle didn’t want to sell him they haven’t come out and said it? As in “he is not for sale at any price??

Also if we are going to pursue him don’t you also think that we have good info that he fancies the move!? Oh when interviewed asked about it he isn’t going to say yes I like the move or am interested!


Anyway we will find out come end of the window!

Oh and don’t rule out us going in for him next year..

 

[bell_mcfc]

Also helps Livramento can play right or left-back with ease

Am I right in saying he can play as a wide centre back in a back 5 as well? Like Walker did for England.

I’m not saying we have a need for that but I’m sure he’s played that role before as well.