Truck Runs into Crowd in Nice

[kaz7]

Criminal back ground as usual,ex wife arrested ,mixture of real and fake weapons found in truck

 

[FanchesterCity]

There is a big difference between accidents and health issues and deliberate acts of mass murder.

Never said there wasn't.
But the appreciating the value of time with loved ones shouldn't be a reaction to terrorism. It should be an appreciation with or without them.
You're more likely to die from other sudden causes than terrorism so appreciating what time we have is more about accepting that than about fear of terrorism.

 

[manimanc]

I don't disagree with you, but that's true with or without terrorism.
You're more likely to have a car crash than die at the hands of a terrorist. Certainly more likely to have a heart attack etc.
Time is precious.

Yeah couldn't agree more mate, it shouldn't take a terrorist attack to make you realise what your family mean to you.

 

[FanchesterCity]

Criminal back ground as usual,ex wife arrested ,mixture of real and fake weapons found in truck

That's normal though. It's generally not going to be happy family man with wife and kids in steady job.
These people aren't born terrorists, they become one, and it's usually over a number of years of behavioural changes. Sadly hard to predict going forward, but easier to spot looking backwards.

It's like not all loners become terrorists, but many terrorists become loners.

 

[CTID1988]

Why do these terrorists always seem to have loads of identification on them? Surely make it more difficult for the authorities to work things out, not easier

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Never said there wasn't.
But the appreciating the value of time with loved ones shouldn't be a reaction to terrorism. It should be an appreciation with or without them.
You're more likely to die from other sudden causes than terrorism so appreciating what time we have is more about accepting that than about fear of terrorism.

Accidents and health are part of the normal journey of life, we should not make terrorism ( or fear of it) part of the normal journey of life as well.

At the moment we are and it continues . It's almost a monthly event now which we are just accepting as part of life . Oh it's a shame we need to be vigilant etc. We should not have to accept it in the same way as accidents and health.

 

[CTID1988]

I see the "Banning religion" thread has gone. What did i miss?

 

[Allnightlong]

Born in France wasn't he?

No
Tunisia.

 

[FanchesterCity]

Accidents and health are part of the normal journey of life, we should not make terrorism ( or fear of it) part of the normal journey of life as well.

At the moment we are and it continues . It's almost a monthly event now which we are just accepting as part of life . Oh it's a shame we need to be vigilant etc. We should not have to accept it in the same way as accidents and health.

It is a part of life. It's just not been a part of OUR lives for a while.
We generally don't care too much when it's happening elsewhere, only when it's closer to home and we think 'that could be us'.

 

[SWP's back]

No
Tunisia.

Then the guy I replied to had a good point.

 

[Pam]

I hate that the Farage cheerleader Marie Le Pen and her psychotic extremist ilk will cash in on yet another human tragedy come the French election. Likewise in Germany and likewise here. Europe is becoming a genuinely dangerous place not only because of the actions of the faith deranged, but because of the gathering strength of these nationalistic zealots. It's less than 100 years since these people came to dominate much of Europe and wreaked havoc and mass murder across our continent and across the world. This is what the Islamo-fascists want as well. Cuntz, the lot of them. I don't know what can be done, though.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

I hate that the Farage cheerleader Marie Le Pen and her psychotic extremist ilk will cash in on yet another human tragedy come the French election. Likewise in Germany and likewise here. Europe is becoming a genuinely dangerous place not only because of the actions of the faith deranged, but because of the gathering strength of these nationalistic zealots. It's less than 100 years since these people came to dominate much of Europe and wreaked havoc and mass murder across our continent and across the world. This is what the Islamo-fascists want as well. Cuntz, the lot of them. I don't know what can be done, though.

You are of course completely fucking mad.
There is a road strewn with dead bodies due to religious extremism and you are more concerned about those who oppose it!

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

I hate that the Farage cheerleader Marie Le Pen and her psychotic extremist ilk will cash in on yet another human tragedy come the French election. Likewise in Germany and likewise here. Europe is becoming a genuinely dangerous place not only because of the actions of the faith deranged, but because of the gathering strength of these nationalistic zealots. It's less than 100 years since these people came to dominate much of Europe and wreaked havoc and mass murder across our continent and across the world. This is what the Islamo-fascists want as well. Cuntz, the lot of them. I don't know what can be done, though.

Bollox.

 

[FanchesterCity]

You are of course completely fucking mad.
There is a road strewn with dead bodies due to religious extremism and you are more concerned about those who oppose it!

I think she's opposing the opportunism that right wing politicians will exploit. Increasing tension between non-muslims and muslims.
It's very easy to stir up tension after an atrocity and have people believe there are many more muslim extremists in our midsts. Enough to make us paranoid and turn on them all.

 

[FanchesterCity]

I disagree that Europe is becoming dangerous though. 100 dead is awful but it's nothing in the grand scheme. I don't want to minimise the atrocity in any way, but at the same time I don't want to make it out to be radical act that will change Europe forever. It won't.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

So this guy was a drinker, gambler, womanizer, and depressed. This is what radicals do. They prey on the weak.

 

[johnmc]

So this guy was a drinker, gambler, womanizer, and depressed. This is what radicals do. They prey on the weak.

Aren't drink and gambling forbidden for Muslims?

 

[Pam]

You are of course completely fucking mad.
There is a road strewn with dead bodies due to religious extremism and you are more concerned about those who oppose it!

Er, nooooo. I am concerned about the people who would make it worse. Jesus, I fucking dispair. No wonder Europe's in the shitter.

 

[Pam]

I disagree that Europe is becoming dangerous though. 100 dead is awful but it's nothing in the grand scheme. I don't want to minimise the atrocity in any way, but at the same time I don't want to make it out to be radical act that will change Europe forever. It won't.

It won't and that is not what I was saying about Europe being in a dangerous place. What I meant was that there is a drip-drip accumulative impact these incidents are having on the political culture as a whole. Europe is becoming dangerous not because of any one single event but because of the rise of the far right and the "it will never happen here" complacency about that.

Let me make this clear. Religious fundamentalists are beneath contempt and I hate the idea that people think we shouldn't criticise Islam and anyone who does is some sort of Islamophobe. Its fucking stupid to deny that Islam has a problem. But far right solutions are never real solutions and it is just as fucking stupid to think that fascism entering the mainstream of European politics is nothing to worry about.

So people think this is mad? Oh do please fuck off.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Er, nooooo. I am concerned about the people who would make it worse. Jesus, I fucking dispair. No wonder Europe's in the shitter.

Yes what we need is Jesus Corbyn in charge and we will never have another terrorist threat in Europe again...