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UAP/UFO thread - Non-Human Intelligences
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Surprised misty wasn't hiding in the jacks when it was time to say his vows.
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Like Barcon, or Canada Dry as I call him
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The mountains in the background are far too big to be in the Midwest. As for the rest of the statement, I can't confirm.I like to think he's somewhere in the American Midwest, harassing bewildered cattle and trampling crops with a bunch of UFO detection tools in a rucksack on his back.
Either that or he's got his own show on the history channel.
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A good post. thanks I will take a look at that (QB). I’m fascinated with sub atomic physics and it’s a career path I was going to take before I met my wife (then girlfriend)…and unfortunately studied molecular biology instead.
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A really good post, much better put and more eloquent than mine. Agree with everything you’ve said.
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Our own history, atleast in relation to our planet's age, is kinda rather random i'd say. Humans come rather late, and are rather something that might have not evolved to become anything had it not been for so many random (especially extinction) events that hit during our planet's lifespan. Earth is 4.5 billion years old, life depending how you look at it something like 2 billion or half a billion years old, whereas homonids first start to appear about 6 million year ago and modern homo sapiens about 160.000 years ago, and our writen history is a few thousand years old. Were it not for several large extinction events that at sseveral times killed of like 97% of all species or more we'd likely not be here, but likely neither had those extinction events not happened exactly WHEN they happened in relation to the evolution of species and biodiversity at the time. Granted it doesn't exclude that earth could have been inhabited by now by lets say (for making it easy in popular culture terms) evolved raptors. But to think, even with what we have with technoligy soon enough we might spread self replicating probes all over our galaxy in a matter of 50.000 years .... thats utterly peanuts. But otoh, it would apparently be neither something special for some species to have started millions if not billions before us, neither that other inhabitable planets would have to wait a few billion years longer for a species to get a chance to evolve itself even to our (material and technological) level, or that perhaps from inventing the wheel to inventing the internet it takes one species 10.000 years, another a million and yet another a 100 years... And all this is out there in some many countless of permutations and yet also likely very subject to all such random things as we experienced in our and our earths history.
it kinda breaks down to step one become a species, step 2 become an intelligent species, step 3 become a materialisticly and technologicly driven species, step 4 as often discussed do all that withought launching yourself back to step 2 ... or 1.5 maybe ..., step 5 start spreading trough space .... step 6 survive long enough that there is something left of you that hasn't worn down trough millions of years, and we just don't know how likely that is in terms of a permutation so with the age aspect it mind it can yet again mean that there are potentially hundreds of extraterrestial species that visited our earth and have something to show for it or none.
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One thing that i seemed to have picked up especially in relation to Nolan, his story and "unindentified flying objects" is that something is stirring in the US regarding this, and it seems mostly so for potential concerns of "new plausibly deniable forms of warfare". You starting to have something like the "Havanna syndrom" that specificly hits govermental personell of various western embassy's and also people connected to the airforce and aerospace engineers and apparently in some cases related to UAP's ... yeah maybe they are kinda serious with their establishment of AARO if they notched it up a few levels in terms of perceived threat to national security.
Heck, even if you consider some of the more modern and nifty directed energy weaponry ... lasers sure, but also long range sonic weaponry and microwave weaponry ... yeah maybe it wouldn't be too surprising if one of USA's rivals managed a breatrough device that isn't undersood in the west in how it works. The way Nolan interprets it as how people got sick from studying and trying to reverse engineer technoligy found in aquired UAP's ... no way to make the distinction between alien and a human adversary that has aquired a special technoligy we don't understand.
And, especially when it comes to something like directed energy weapons, one thing i wondered is if someone ever thought about a flying nuclear reactor as a power source for such thing, as really potentcy of such weaponry is quite up to the powersource and a flying nuclear reactor is perhaps not even so farfetched as an invention.
Heck, even if you consider some of the more modern and nifty directed energy weaponry ... lasers sure, but also long range sonic weaponry and microwave weaponry ... yeah maybe it wouldn't be too surprising if one of USA's rivals managed a breatrough device that isn't undersood in the west in how it works. The way Nolan interprets it as how people got sick from studying and trying to reverse engineer technoligy found in aquired UAP's ... no way to make the distinction between alien and a human adversary that has aquired a special technoligy we don't understand.
And, especially when it comes to something like directed energy weapons, one thing i wondered is if someone ever thought about a flying nuclear reactor as a power source for such thing, as really potentcy of such weaponry is quite up to the powersource and a flying nuclear reactor is perhaps not even so farfetched as an invention.
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Thank goodness no one's decided to make the obvious Buster Gonad joke about aliens being a load of bollocks to which the correct answer is extra testicle!
I'll get my gold cape and flying goggles on the way out?!?
It is a fascinating point that aliens are probably not humanoid but could have evolved in all kinds of environments that we can't imagine.
Going back to the OP, the vast majority of UFOs are explicable as weather phenomena, birds, planes etc. That's maybe 90% of sightings, maybe more than that. Which does mean that there must be a small percentage that would appear to be actual UFO's....
Like I say most encounters would have a logical explanation. I think media / internet coverage has also encouraged more people to speak out.
It also leads to more idiots being taken seriously such as, to name two, a woman who saw a character wearing "Nike trainers" in a 17/18th portrait at the National Gallery and someone else who saw a "laptop" in a similarly aged painting!
The "Nike trainers" appeared to be square toed boots bound up with ribbons tied in a bow. Equally the "laptop" was a box or case for a necklace!
It is interesting that people sometimes want to ascribe human achievement to extra terrestrial/ supernatural/divine inspiration or influence.
Hernan Cortez who conquered the Mexica or Aztecs attributed his success to God. Equally it was due to the superior weapons os the Spanish, their horses and a combination of factors that meant the Aztecs' client states flocked to Cortez' banner.
In the 1960s/70s Erich von Danniken popularized theories that our technology was given to our ancestors by aliens, one of his many books being Was God an Astronaut?!
Going back to the Axtecs, their capital city Technochtitlan was built on an island in the middle of a lagoon which the partially drained and used to irritate the surrounding land. Cortez estimated there were maybe 200 000 people living there, making it larger than many European capitals in 1520.
The Maya in southern Mexico/Guatemala and the Inca of Peru had similar empires within relatively speaking a close geographic area too.
Did aliens help them, or the Egyptians or the Ancient Cambodians or the people of the Indus valley? No more I think than ET being responsible for Carthage or Rome.
If it does turn out that we don't encounter alien lifeforms, at least I can watch Kirk snogging any alien strumpet left, right and centre and think go Tomcat ! ;-)))
I'll get my gold cape and flying goggles on the way out?!?
It is a fascinating point that aliens are probably not humanoid but could have evolved in all kinds of environments that we can't imagine.
Going back to the OP, the vast majority of UFOs are explicable as weather phenomena, birds, planes etc. That's maybe 90% of sightings, maybe more than that. Which does mean that there must be a small percentage that would appear to be actual UFO's....
Like I say most encounters would have a logical explanation. I think media / internet coverage has also encouraged more people to speak out.
It also leads to more idiots being taken seriously such as, to name two, a woman who saw a character wearing "Nike trainers" in a 17/18th portrait at the National Gallery and someone else who saw a "laptop" in a similarly aged painting!
The "Nike trainers" appeared to be square toed boots bound up with ribbons tied in a bow. Equally the "laptop" was a box or case for a necklace!
It is interesting that people sometimes want to ascribe human achievement to extra terrestrial/ supernatural/divine inspiration or influence.
Hernan Cortez who conquered the Mexica or Aztecs attributed his success to God. Equally it was due to the superior weapons os the Spanish, their horses and a combination of factors that meant the Aztecs' client states flocked to Cortez' banner.
In the 1960s/70s Erich von Danniken popularized theories that our technology was given to our ancestors by aliens, one of his many books being Was God an Astronaut?!
Going back to the Axtecs, their capital city Technochtitlan was built on an island in the middle of a lagoon which the partially drained and used to irritate the surrounding land. Cortez estimated there were maybe 200 000 people living there, making it larger than many European capitals in 1520.
The Maya in southern Mexico/Guatemala and the Inca of Peru had similar empires within relatively speaking a close geographic area too.
Did aliens help them, or the Egyptians or the Ancient Cambodians or the people of the Indus valley? No more I think than ET being responsible for Carthage or Rome.
If it does turn out that we don't encounter alien lifeforms, at least I can watch Kirk snogging any alien strumpet left, right and centre and think go Tomcat ! ;-)))
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Yeah, it's a bit sad atleast for those who have a fairly rational and "realistic" perception of it that the subject has been taken over in many aspects by "gullible?" in society.
Even between something extraterrestial potentially having visited earth, and something extraterrestial being active on earth theres quite the difference. With all the wear and tear going on on earth, were already lucky if we can find some minute remains of a proto civilization that might have existed 10.000 years ago, it would take pretty stronk stuff for something that have visited earth a few million years ago to be still around on a level that is not broken down to it's very atoms. And it's perhaps not even a given that any species that reaches a technoligy level that in relative terms is a 1000 years ahead of us at our current evolutionary pace is even going to stick around or atleast in it's form in our galaxy. One perception of mine is that it might be actually logically feasable for any intelligent species that got advanced enough for it to reduce its size to perhaps subatomic levels where they might be a complex construction of quarks, at which point you would even never see them, but it surely would make it easier for that species to go about in space and travel outright to other galaxy's in a hurry, and it's perhaps so in relation to that that our glaxy just really isn't "the place to be". Well eitherway, the day they observe something like a Tachyon ill be screaming alien i think, be it afcourse that such Tachyons particle sized aliens would have the inherit property of speeds vastly greater than the speed of light (think for example 1 billion x speed of light, takes you 1.5 seconds to cross our milky way) and therefore typically traveling backwards in time and "arriving somewhere at destination before having departed from their origin".
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they use to send the big yellow bus for you if you talked about UFO's or Aliens, Now its 2023 you phone the NHS helpline and they run you through a checklist of questions and if you pass they send a man in a black suit with sunglasses on asking you to look at his pen
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Sometimes it's hard to know what you should keep as a hobby topic and what you should properly study. I did my undergrad in mathematical physics which was about 40% quantum theory. I went in thinking it was going to be all mystery and intrigue but the reality is it is just reams of eye-wateringly hard maths. In the end I couldn't wait to graduate and do something else.
That's how I learned that true passion for a subject isn't about loving the interesting bits. It's about being willing to put up with the years of mental pain for those few moments of mind-blowing revelation.
I remember sitting in my lectures on classical electromagnetism where I went through 30 hours of what appeared to be total chaotic nonsense. Then in the very last lecture out of a sea of noise and about 12 whiteboards of equations, from first principles, you end up 'discovering' the speed of light. The number just kind of intuitively pops out of the fabric of the universe. That kind of thing is cool and makes it worthwhile but there's a lot of work involved in getting there.
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The article claims they have NO evidence of aliens. Some other irrelevant guy claims otherwise. Like some do.
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This extraterrestrial object the yanks have seems very plausible to me. I'd go as far as saying that Elvis probably brought it back from the Moon.
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There were also the Minoans on Crete who just inexplicably vanished.
They had an advanced system of drainage for their settlement.
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Heh, i guess youre pointing to the fact that there are for example 2.5 million times more ants on the globe than humans?
What i really meant was that few species on earth have the kind of physical manipulators like we have to even be able to to build up a materialistic and technoligy driven civilization like we do. Our hands and the capabillety of them are fairly rare in the animal world and part of a very niche evolutionary branch. There are others sure but on the grand scale of it it's pretty rare for a species to have something like these fine motorical manipulators, and even then with having such things like opposable thumbs the ape related species have pretty much the best tools for the job. Any intelligent animal that has fins, hooves, paws, wings, legs you name it arn't nessecarily going to be ever able to use these to make or build things even if they are intelligent. It's another filter as to the possibilety of having intelligent life that actually would ever be able to build spaceships, not a small filter at that i'd say.
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Some claims from very credible witnesses here:
Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program since 2007, said that, in some cases, examination of the materials had so far failed to determine their source and led him to conclude, “We couldn’t make it ourselves.”
Mr. Davis, who now works for Aerospace Corporation, a defense contractor, said he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.”
Mr. Davis said he also gave classified briefings on retrievals of unexplained objects to staff members of the Senate Armed Services Committee on Oct. 21, 2019, and to staff members of the Senate Intelligence Committee two days later.
No Longer in Shadows, Pentagon’s U.F.O. Unit Will Make Some Findings Public (Published 2020)
For over a decade, the program, now tucked inside the Office of Naval Intelligence, has discussed mysterious events in classified briefings.