UKIP

[Seosa]

The debate of immigration has always caused controversy, from the Irish in the 1800's to the present day. The one thing history has shown us is that we can count on leftists to side with incoming migrants and those on the right to side with the country's regulars.

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It was the govts. of the right in the 50s that first encouraged mass immigration to feed the countrys need for workers.

On the left as i am im not in favour of mass immigration, im in favour of specified immigration. If we need nurses let them in, if we need students to pay for our unis let them in, if we need cleaners let them in. Immigration should be used to plug gaps in our skills base.

Europe mind allows free movement of labour between its member states, people will flow where the work is and that is a capatilists dream. It has a bigger choice of workforce and it can keep costs as in wages down. Keep costs and wages down and that in Laissez-Faire circles means growth.

In simple terms, MCFC had a skills gap for a world class goalscoring centre forward, so we immigrated Sergio Aguero as the requisite skills were not available in the UK workforce.

That's exactly it, specified immigration allows for a country's need to "fill in its gaps" but also allows for social progression. Open door policies on the other hand are dangerous.

 

[Rascal]

I think you maybe missed my point. Britain has been taken deeper and deeper into a European Union without the consent of the British people, who voted for membership of a Common Market. However it's extremly unlikely that the politicians will give the British people the opportunity to have a say, because they know there's a bloody good chance that we'd vote No. This is why UKIP exists, to give those people who feel strongly that we should be out of the EU the opportunity to have their voices heard.

We elect people to represent us in the UK parliament, on far more important issues than the EU. There job when elected to our parliament is to decide how to vote as there conscience permits. In most other EU countries this is accepted as being part of the EU is seen as a boon rather than a hinderance to our respective nations futures.

Our forefathers voted for us to be part of the EU and they made that in good faith based on the arguments of the day, the issues of today are different i accept.

The EU as i asked before has little influence on our daily lives as our parliament is still soveriegn and i will again ask the questions. How does the EU affect your life and how will leaving benefit the UK?

 

[Johnsonontheleft]

In simple terms, MCFC had a skills gap for a world class goalscoring centre forward, so we immigrated Sergio Aguero as the requisite skills were not available in the UK workforce.

Or, we brought in Javi Garcia and as a result James Milner (hard-working Englishman) is unfairly sidelined...

 

[Seosa]

In simple terms, MCFC had a skills gap for a world class goalscoring centre forward, so we immigrated Sergio Aguero as the requisite skills were not available in the UK workforce.

Or, we brought in Javi Garcia and as a result James Milner (hard-working Englishman) is unfairly sidelined...

STFU JOTL, Jimmy's been injured, :s

 

[Helmet Cole]

The debate of immigration has always caused controversy, from the Irish in the 1800's to the present day. The one thing history has shown us is that we can count on leftists to side with incoming migrants and those on the right to side with the country's regulars.

.

It was the govts. of the right in the 50s that first encouraged mass immigration to feed the countrys need for workers.

On the left as i am im not in favour of mass immigration, im in favour of specified immigration. If we need nurses let them in, if we need students to pay for our unis let them in, if we need cleaners let them in. Immigration should be used to plug gaps in our skills base.

Europe mind allows free movement of labour between its member states, people will flow where the work is and that is a capatilists dream. It has a bigger choice of workforce and it can keep costs as in wages down. Keep costs and wages down and that in Laissez-Faire circles means growth.

In simple terms, MCFC had a skills gap for a world class goalscoring centre forward, so we immigrated Sergio Aguero as the requisite skills were not available in the UK workforce.

I appreciate you are keeping this simple to make your point, but once you throw in asylum and benefits your 'capitalists dream' becomes blurred and we end up with the 'wrong' type of immigrants which do not address our skills gap.
I honestly don't know what the answer is - we need young immigrants to do frankly a lot of the crap low paid, but essential jobs in this country to maintain the lifestyle of our aging population. Unfortunately then in the next generation the problem will double, as we need to maintain an even larger aging population of old 'natives' and immigrants.
This is an issue for the whole western/capitalist world rather than the UK/UKIP and the only solutions I can see are a good pandemic, soylent green, or blowing up anyone over 30 like in that film which I can't remember the name of!

 

[Rascal]

In simple terms, MCFC had a skills gap for a world class goalscoring centre forward, so we immigrated Sergio Aguero as the requisite skills were not available in the UK workforce.

Or, we brought in Javi Garcia and as a result James Milner (hard-working Englishman) is unfairly sidelined...

Not everyone is succesful in the job they are employed to do.

I would love a team of brilliant hard working Mancunian lads to play for us, but as in all thngs thats unrealistic as im sure you are aware.


Also the fact you confuse a player who has every right under EU rules to ply his trade here with a player who does not shows you dont really understand the issues

Sergio is an immigrant, Garcia is not.

 

[Damocles]

The debate of immigration has always caused controversy, from the Irish in the 1800's to the present day. The one thing history has shown us is that we can count on leftists to side with incoming migrants and those on the right to side with the country's regulars.

.

It was the govts. of the right in the 50s that first encouraged mass immigration to feed the countrys need for workers.

On the left as i am im not in favour of mass immigration, im in favour of specified immigration. If we need nurses let them in, if we need students to pay for our unis let them in, if we need cleaners let them in. Immigration should be used to plug gaps in our skills base.

Europe mind allows free movement of labour between its member states, people will flow where the work is and that is a capatilists dream. It has a bigger choice of workforce and it can keep costs as in wages down. Keep costs and wages down and that in Laissez-Faire circles means growth.

In simple terms, MCFC had a skills gap for a world class goalscoring centre forward, so we immigrated Sergio Aguero as the requisite skills were not available in the UK workforce.

I appreciate you are keeping this simple to make your point, but once you throw in asylum and benefits your 'capitalists dream' becomes blurred and we end up with the 'wrong' type of immigrants which do not address our skills gap.
I honestly don't know what the answer is - we need young immigrants to do frankly a lot of the crap low paid, but essential jobs in this country to maintain the lifestyle of our aging population. Unfortunately then in the next generation the problem will double, as we need to maintain an even larger aging population of old 'natives' and immigrants.
This is an issue for the whole western/capitalist world rather than the UK/UKIP and the only solutions I can see are a good pandemic, soylent green, or blowing up anyone over 30 like in that film which I can't remember the name of!

The wrong type of immigrants.

Interesting.

 

[tidyman]

Logan's Run.

Knew I'd be able to make a useful contribution if I hung around long enough.

 

[W12]

The debate of immigration has always caused controversy, from the Irish in the 1800's to the present day. The one thing history has shown us is that we can count on leftists to side with incoming migrants and those on the right to side with the country's regulars.

.

It was the govts. of the right in the 50s that first encouraged mass immigration to feed the countrys need for workers.

On the left as i am im not in favour of mass immigration, im in favour of specified immigration. If we need nurses let them in, if we need students to pay for our unis let them in, if we need cleaners let them in. Immigration should be used to plug gaps in our skills base.

Europe mind allows free movement of labour between its member states, people will flow where the work is and that is a capatilists dream. It has a bigger choice of workforce and it can keep costs as in wages down. Keep costs and wages down and that in Laissez-Faire circles means growth.

In simple terms, MCFC had a skills gap for a world class goalscoring centre forward, so we immigrated Sergio Aguero as the requisite skills were not available in the UK workforce.

With 2.5 million unemployed, do we really need the worlds best cleaners to come to the uk?

 

[Helmet Cole]

Don't be a dick Damocles. I purposely put wrong in quotation marks to make it clear (I hoped) that I was talking purely in terms of rascals utopian view of skills specified immigration, and the fact that there are factors other than the prevailing jobs market that affect what immigrants we get.