United lose, post match discussion

[hertsblue]

If we finish above Utd, we will be champions. They will be there or thereabout at the end of the season

 

[samharris]

i think the game at everton isnt much telling of them since its a tough pplace to play let alone start a season... i think after few games we can find out more if they will be challengers...

Everton are notoriously bad starters and the scum are reliably good.

Last night told us that if you go for them you get sommat.

 

[Pam]

i think the game at everton isnt much telling of them since its a tough pplace to play let alone start a season... i think after few games we can find out more if they will be challengers...

Everton are notoriously bad starters and the scum are reliably good.

Last night told us that if you go for them you get sommat.

Their problem is their midfield. All the rags know this with the exception of the senile rasher-faced one.

 

[FisHman99]

I'll chip in with a couple of things and, try not to state the obvious.
We know that, when United get it right in attack, they can be very dangerous. RVP will work to some extent, but, increasingly for them, Rooney must be a worry. Is he a spent force? Probably not, but, he did nothing against us at the end of last season, had an atrocious Euro's championship, and now after a good break when he should be reinvigorated, he was dire last night. As was Nani. As was Wellbeck. The rest were barely average, apart from De Gea, who kept them in the game with 3 excellent 1st half saves. The fact is that, until RVP gets his arse in gear, Rooney is still the man for them, and when he doesn't perform, there is no real threat to worry about. Early season rustiness? How they must hope so!
Defensively, United are weak against the big boys. Not many teams could have handled Fellaini last night, but, Fergie's problem is his arrogance - endemic throughout the club! He thought they were good enough to 'muller' Everton; he was incapable of acknowledging the Fellaini problem and changing things to combat it. His arrogance prevents any tactical change, save for eventually throwing more forwards into the fray, who lovingly put mostly nice crosses into the box for Jagielka and co to head away.
If that had been City v Everton, Mancini would have been ringing the changes. Fergie, a lesser manager, cannot do that. (Outrageous comment!!! Cue the Fergie arselickers...) Some may defend him for having a depleted squad, but, its his squad; he's the one who's just spent £40m on RVP and Kagawa, and £40/50m on average players last year, so no sympathy. He could have at least swapped Vidic at times onto Fellaini, but it never happened. In Fergieland, 1 dimensional works - but only when the likes of Rooney are really 'at it.'
So, in a tactical battle, Fergie was found wanting and didn't even put up a fight, imho. But, of more concern to the Emperor - suddenly finding himself naked - should be the fact the his diminutive central midfield partnership of the soon to be all conquering Scholes/Cleverly axis were embarrassed by Phil Neville and Darron Gibson - 2 of his own rejects. How he managed to hide the bitterness of that eating away at him in his post match MUTV interview is something I would have liked to watch.
I understand that Fergie was his usual ungracious self, accusing Everton of being 1 dimensional, and alleging that Utd should have had a penalty. The truth is that, but for 3 excellent saves by De Gea, the woodwork, and a temporarily blinded Andre Mariner who didn't see Jelavic being wrestled to the ground in the first half in the penalty area - right in front of his very eyes - Fergie's embarrassment should have been far, far greater.
Anyway, when it comes to the big games, the best United will have to offer is a midfield of Cleverly - his number 1 choice - and Scholes/Giggs or possibly Carrick - and Kagawa, who 'gave and went' a few times, enough to shine a little in a very, very mediocre team. I don't doubt that United will be good enough to turn over quite a lot of teams, especially at Old Trafford, but most importantly, I see nothing whatsoever for us to fear. I think Chelsea and a few others will feel likewise.
Finally, Fergie has put all the pressure on his players. He has made clear his desperation to get the number 1 spot back. He's insisted that he won't lose on goal difference again. Well, that's 1 game each and he's 3 points and 2 goals behind already, so although it may be early days, the pressure is on and he has to get a result against Fulham this weekend - can they spring a surprise? Will we fare any better on Merseyside on Sunday?
Thank God the football's back!

Good read, thanks

 

[interpol]

Slur Alex non-appearance on Sky post-game

Been checking the regulations and under Premier League rule P17...

"All Managers are required to attend in person and participate in pre-match and
post-match one-to-one interviews held by or for the benefit of a UK Broadcaster
or Radio Broadcaster on the day of a League Fixture and failure to do so without
just cause shall be a breach of these Rules. Such interviews shall not be arranged
in such a manner as to interfere with the Manager’s primary matchday
responsibilities as regards team matters."

Would appear that by venting his spleen on MUTV he has managed to bypass the mainstream media.
No doubt he'll be first out to Geoff Shreeves when they eventually register their first win.

 

[Pam]

Fergie has gone on a panicky trolley dash on the strength of last night and has come up with Tintin.

 

[samharris]

Fergie is having sanity issues. There were signs of this at the tail end of last season and it is now getting worse. RVP was a trolley dash buy in the first place. Nobody else wanted him.

Feed the Purse and He Won't Score.

Van persie scored over 30 goals last season and took a fookin corner kick. ARF !!

 

[samharris]

Re: Slur Alex non-appearance on Sky post-game

He fookin bottled it...hes getting weak,and his refusal to talk speaks volumes.

 

[andyhinch]

Re: Slur Alex non-appearance on Sky post-game

But what could he say? I wezz shite,wool be right mind jimmy

 

[Juan King]

Re: Slur Alex non-appearance on Sky post-game

He's cracking up