The new rule is utter bollocks I fully agree mate.
Its as Gary Linekar said last night ref VAR and offside it can (at the moment) never be proved scientifically and likewise handball will just be the same for the forseeable future.I’m fully aware of that and not disputing the rule etc ! What I’m saying is without scientific evidence of heat map, ultra edge , Hawkeye etc , it’s just open to manipulation and interpretation , it’s nit being based on facts like goal line technology , no one has an issue with it because it’s a fact !
Its as Gary Linekar said last night ref VAR and offside it can (at the moment) never be proved scientifically and likewise handball will just be the same for the forseeable future.
No doubt someone will come up with an invention, like goal-line technology, which has proven to be a marvellous scientific solution.
Case of watch this space over the next few seasons.
I am sure I have read somewhere that all goals will be reviewed just to check for handball and any other incidents that weren't spotted initially.Also, I thought VAR was only called on if it was a Clear and Obvious error. That wasn't clear and obvious, not one single person even spotted it. Even the commentators on the slo-mo reply on TV didn't see it until VAR kicked in?
Oakie my lovely we can't see that pic unless you post it,there is no paper to look at nowAs I`ve said to other posters have a look at the photo taken behind the goal and is on the back pages of the Sunday Mirror where it clearly shows the ball hitting Erics hand.
If it was that cut and dry that it didn`t, then you need to look back on this thread from the overwhelming majority who saw differently than you and one or two more.
Its not VAR that was incorrect ... its the fucking new stupid ruling and will cause more problems than the FA and PL ever thought would do and they need to revert back to the old ruling ... quickly.
Said all along it would be used as a tool to manipulate results and that’s exactly what is happening. If Liverpool or the rags scored that goal yesterday it would never have been reviewed by the VAR and we would all be none the wiser regarding the “handball”.
It wont happen now its already been introduced as well you know it.Then fuck it off till they have the technology other wise it’s just a load of horse shit all done on interpretation, may as well have just stuck with the pricks with the whistle and got on with it
@DeBruyneKev on the disallowed goal in #MCITOT: “What can he do? Should he chop his arm off and play without? They made this rule, it’s new, but when I saw the video, it’s impossible to take his arm away.
“There’s nothing he can do because Nicolas Otamendi is in front of him by 10cm and trying to head the ball. You can’t react in that space and amount of time. Make it clear - handball both sides.”
@DeBruyneKev on the disallowed goal in #MCITOT: “What can he do? Should he chop his arm off and play without? They made this rule, it’s new, but when I saw the video, it’s impossible to take his arm away.
“There’s nothing he can do because Nicolas Otamendi is in front of him by 10cm and trying to head the ball. You can’t react in that space and amount of time. Make it clear - handball both sides.”
I too haven't got an issue with our disallowed goal Its the "clear and obvious " I have issue with and the confusion around Oliver not thinking/awarding a clear penalty , so why is VAR not interfering with the refs decision ? If VAR know hes made a mistake by not awarding a penalty why didn't VAR inform him hes made a mistake ? yet they inform him they've seen a handball when he initially along with all 22 players didn't see anything wrong with Jesus goalOver 24hrs since the disappointment of yesterdays VAR/hand ball decision when we all thought we'd won the game. And after reading a lot on here and in various media and listening to numerous pundits it's clear the recent handball rule change has gone too far and VAR's trouble is with those managing it.
I have no problem with the decision on the handball as that's the rule (poor as it is now), I have no problem VAR checking and advising the ref of the infringement.
But the very same person made a decision on the first half penalty offence that we didn't get.
At the last count every newspaper report on the game, every pundit that's seen it and commented and two former referees have said that it was a penalty. Either the VAR operator yesterday got it terribly wrong or was down right incompetent. I don't see this changing, with penalty's it's still down to someone to make the decision exactly like the ref on the pitch, unlike an offside or hand ball when pictures and computer graphics don't lie.
One thing that has occurred is we are likely to suffer more than any other team, simply because of the way we play, we score more, we attack more and we are faster. All the area's were VAR checks the most, there must have been over 15 VAR checks on us in our 1st two league games this season, I bet that's more than any other team.
VAR is here to stay, it will probably get worse before it gets better and settles down, but it's likely to have changed the game we love immeasurably and driven some fans away. I liked it the old way, you win some you lose some.
We appear to be the big losers so far with VAR but that may well even out.
Who knows? VAR might just help us win the Champions League this season.
Despite this I HATE it.
The definition of a goal has been changed so it is no longer possible to detect a goal with the naked eye.
All you can see is what might be a goal subject to forensic examination failing to find anything wrong with it.
Not a good basis for a spectator sport.