Var debate 2019/20

[BringBackSwales]

The third one is confirm that the ref is blind in one eye, and the fourth is to confirm that he is fulfilling the task that his masters at Uefa have given him!!

Cheers Dave

 

[stonerblue]

On TV -
The Sterling one was a foul but I thought outside of the area, so a free kick not a pen
The Gundogan incident was a forearm to the face, so yes a pen
The Aguero one just after, the defender clearly gets the ball, so no pen.

Do you mean the Aguero one where the defender took out both his legs?

 

[Gazza]

Do you mean the Aguero one where the defender took out both his legs?

From one angle it looks like he took his legs (edge of the box view) but from another angle (from the goal line near the incident) he looks like he got the ball cleanly.

 

[smevchenko]

On TV -
The Sterling one was a foul but I thought outside of the area, so a free kick not a pen
The Gundogan incident was a forearm to the face, so yes a pen
The Aguero one just after, the defender clearly gets the ball, so no pen.

Sterling challenge, defender got the ball

 

[Gazza]

Sterling challenge, defender got the ball

It just goes to show that we all see what we want to see - no wonder VAR is a farce.

 

[hammocity]

I think there's definitely a subconscious bias against us domestically and in Europe.

Refs also know that the fallout and public criticism if they make a bad decision against us doesn't come close to what they cop when they make a decision for us or against one of the history teams.

But I don't know why the club or supporters should just accept it. We should be bitter until it stops. It costs us money, games and potentially trophies.

Fuck them. Their job is to get it right for all teams.

I agree with some of your sentiments but it will stop when they fuck us over and the job is complete in their eyes

 

[smevchenko]

It just goes to show that we all see what we want to see - no wonder VAR is a farce.

Indeed, I felt he got the ball, but others will think he took the man first, or came in from behind. VAR will never solve challenges like this, as it is clearly subjective. I was quite happy to whinge about the odd offside injustice etc before VAR, and would much rather go back to that after VAR. Having seen other countries use VAR to look again at penalty incidents, whereby the ref would go and look at a monitor, I fell that should be the way it is used. Yes, you get the odd delay, and decisions across the league will not be consistent, but surely everyone would prefer the ref having another look, and then making a decision, rather than a faceless person in a room somewhere making it.

 

[blueinsa]

Handball nailed on penalty.

Sterling was a decent tackle when reviewed and i wouldnt have given it.

Gundog was rugby tackled, penalty and Kun had his foot stood on so penalty.

 

[franksinatra]

That’s bullshit, we had two onside goals rules out for offside. Not of of my Liverpool fan mates have disagreed with that.

It was not particularly well written but the point was where we complain of decisions going against us other fans would also view incidents against us and feel aggrieved. But agree not the same incidents

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

The ref was poor for both sides, do you really think all Officials area told to screw City by UEFA? If this was endemic at some stage an ex referee would be able to sell his story for a lot of money. It doesn’t happen.

However it’s probably a general attitude amongst a lot involved with Uefa that we have scant regard for the competition, that will have a sub conscious effect on their decisions.

Eg, was that a penalty for City? Fuck em, they don’t like us, no, was that a penalty for Barca, course it was, they embrace the CL.

I understand the history of the contempt for the European governing body but are we going to remain so bitter for ever? It will cost us in the long run.

The referee was poor for both sides. Ok agreed. Why do you think VAR as not even used to review the clear handball by a zagreb defender in the first half? It is universally agreed that it was a clear penalty. The ball went out for a goal kick, so ample opportunity for a review. Seven officials did not see the handball either, I wonder why not?