quiet_riot
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Shite needs fucking off, or football's massive boom will turn to bust.
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Var debate 2019/20
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Elbow beards
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Whether the decisions are right or wrong, this is the death nolles for me, 2 games In and I'm fucked if I can be arsed
eastmanc
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It ain’t going to finish me, they would fucking love that,come on blue don’t let the bastards get you down, stick with it.After 48 years of watching the Blues, this could be the season that finishes me, VAR is going to bring back the teams they want to be in the Big 4.It’s cheating, it’s that simple, and I’ve had enough of the powers that be taking the piss out of us.
I do believe it will bring back crowd trouble as well, it’s that divisive.
Cheers, I didn't know they were using the monitors. The only way I could ever get behind var is if the ref and var hut are mic'd up. They will never make it that transparent though.From the premier league VAR instructions
"The on-field referee will then decide whether to accept and act on the VAR official's view of the incident. This may involve the use of the pitch-side monitor, although the Premier League says this will be used sparingly, for incidents either not seen by the on-field ref or for those outside of their expected range".
So a ref can check if they want but the prem doesn't want the game slowed down.
Thay decision today was shown on the big screen and wasn't clear, Oliver should have reviewed it to be certain, the **** didn't bother.
having just got home and watched the replay of the so called hand ball ?? i think they should look closer and the spurs player also touch it with his arm at the same time ????
the ref was shocking and was out to do us over right from the start just give them everything and even a yellow for sterling and spurs player did the same thing and got nothing, i give up and the game is fucked and VAR in place is just another tool to use to get at man city ?? 2 games in and how many talking points involved in our games, they are after us and every little things is being pin pointed and why did we not get a pen with the push and VAR and the ref just washed over it
its the end of football as we know it, and now its better staying at home and watching on tv because sat in the stand you are clueless to whats going on and i only see trouble going to flair up very soon the fans are getting done over and nothing is being shown until they play on after the VAR team have done with it by then fans are back watching the game not the video screens
just play the replays as VAR are watching let the fans see what everybody sat at home see
the ref was shocking and was out to do us over right from the start just give them everything and even a yellow for sterling and spurs player did the same thing and got nothing, i give up and the game is fucked and VAR in place is just another tool to use to get at man city ?? 2 games in and how many talking points involved in our games, they are after us and every little things is being pin pointed and why did we not get a pen with the push and VAR and the ref just washed over it
its the end of football as we know it, and now its better staying at home and watching on tv because sat in the stand you are clueless to whats going on and i only see trouble going to flair up very soon the fans are getting done over and nothing is being shown until they play on after the VAR team have done with it by then fans are back watching the game not the video screens
just play the replays as VAR are watching let the fans see what everybody sat at home see
Kokonut1307
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If anyone doubted that the FA had an agenda just watch the missed VAR call and judge for yourself. Tinfoil time!
BosnianBlue
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I seriously don't have a problem with our goal being dismissed. I can talk about the rule, but if rule is there, than it is the correct decision. Spurs should not lose the game because the rule of game was broken.
But I do have a problem that 2 stonewall penalties, one at 0:0 and other at 2:1 were just waived on and var did fuck all to apply the rules of the game on it. Those incidents are something refs definitely can miss during the game, but with VAR over there, that should be fixed and both are stonewall penalties and easy decisions. People are talking about Rodri's oonly but that one on Laporte in second half is as clear penalty as the first one. Pulling someone's wrist for 10 meters until he fails to the ground and miss the chance to have a free header is as big penalty as wrestling Rodri to the ground.
VAR is a fantastic idea. The game needs to be fair and I don't care if that will take some of my emotions with it. But how it stands so far when City are involved, it's just another weapon to stop us. As it looks for a smallest things to fuck us, yet not apply the rules when we should get advantage from it's introduction.
So something that was supposed to make a game fair, it's becoming even bigger cheating than before.
But I do have a problem that 2 stonewall penalties, one at 0:0 and other at 2:1 were just waived on and var did fuck all to apply the rules of the game on it. Those incidents are something refs definitely can miss during the game, but with VAR over there, that should be fixed and both are stonewall penalties and easy decisions. People are talking about Rodri's oonly but that one on Laporte in second half is as clear penalty as the first one. Pulling someone's wrist for 10 meters until he fails to the ground and miss the chance to have a free header is as big penalty as wrestling Rodri to the ground.
VAR is a fantastic idea. The game needs to be fair and I don't care if that will take some of my emotions with it. But how it stands so far when City are involved, it's just another weapon to stop us. As it looks for a smallest things to fuck us, yet not apply the rules when we should get advantage from it's introduction.
So something that was supposed to make a game fair, it's becoming even bigger cheating than before.
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Pingu the Penguin
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Did any of our penalty appeals get VAR reviewed? No I didn’t think so
None of us have the slightest clue. Brilliant implementation of VAR
Deepest Blue
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I'd be prepared to put good money on no similar thing happening to Dippers or Rags while they are close to us in the League.
I can see us getting a dodgy decision in our favour in an already won game to shut us up.
I don't want it totally scrapped but needs to be overhauled. Coaches challenges would be worth considering IMO.
I can see us getting a dodgy decision in our favour in an already won game to shut us up.
I don't want it totally scrapped but needs to be overhauled. Coaches challenges would be worth considering IMO.
The handball decision was spot on.
The penalty a lot less so but clearly more subjectivity is allowed in the laws.
Two things struck me:
1. As we are likely to create the most chances in the division, and score the most goals then it’s likely we will be involved in the greatest number of VAR decisions. Not a thought that’s good for the stress levels but buckle up everyone ...
2. The biggest gap is the moment is the refusal by the PL to allow more transparency of decisions.
Rugby Union has a lot more complicated rules but feel a lot more informed on why decisions have been made than I do in football. We should mike up the refs and show the VAR decisions both at the ground and on telly. VAR will lead to better decisions overall so why don’t the FA/PL (whoever it is) grow a pair and adopt a much more transparent approach. The longer they don’t the more the more bizarre conspiracy theories sometimes witnessed here will grow yet further.
The penalty a lot less so but clearly more subjectivity is allowed in the laws.
Two things struck me:
1. As we are likely to create the most chances in the division, and score the most goals then it’s likely we will be involved in the greatest number of VAR decisions. Not a thought that’s good for the stress levels but buckle up everyone ...
2. The biggest gap is the moment is the refusal by the PL to allow more transparency of decisions.
Rugby Union has a lot more complicated rules but feel a lot more informed on why decisions have been made than I do in football. We should mike up the refs and show the VAR decisions both at the ground and on telly. VAR will lead to better decisions overall so why don’t the FA/PL (whoever it is) grow a pair and adopt a much more transparent approach. The longer they don’t the more the more bizarre conspiracy theories sometimes witnessed here will grow yet further.
Ohrodneyrodney
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VAR is an absolute abomination. Those on here who support it and said it would be to the detriment of Liverpool and United still believe in the tooth fairy.
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How can they spot an handball that nobody on the pitch or in the ground or in the commentary box spotted yet miss a blatant penalty that everyone spotted unless they're cheating.
1961_vintage
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VAR is an absolute abomination. Those on here who support it and said it would be to the detriment of Liverpool and United still believe in the tooth fairy.
It's not VAR that is the issue - it is how it is being used.
How can they spot an handball that nobody on the pitch or in the ground or in the commentary box spotted yet miss a blatant penalty that everyone spotted unless they're cheating.
Always been measured and said, it all events out.
But it's because they're cheating. No other explanation. Too many instances now where instances in our favour ignored but against us immediately pulled up.
Hand ball "spot on" ? You would need a DNA test to be sure it even touched him .The handball decision was spot on.
The penalty a lot less so but clearly more subjectivity is allowed in the laws.
Two things struck me:
1. As we are likely to create the most chances in the division, and score the most goals then it’s likely we will be involved in the greatest number of VAR decisions. Not a thought that’s good for the stress levels but buckle up everyone ...
2. The biggest gap is the moment is the refusal by the PL to allow more transparency of decisions.
Rugby Union has a lot more complicated rules but feel a lot more informed on why decisions have been made than I do in football. We should mike up the refs and show the VAR decisions both at the ground and on telly. VAR will lead to better decisions overall so why don’t the FA/PL (whoever it is) grow a pair and adopt a much more transparent approach. The longer they don’t the more the more bizarre conspiracy theories sometimes witnessed here will grow yet further.
Ohrodneyrodney
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It's not VAR that is the issue - it is how it is being used.
Was always going to be used that way
kaz7
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Sky said it was not clear whose hand it hit so not clear and obvious so it should have stood,2 games in and we are the most scrutinized team so far with marginal decisions going against,i watched the dipers first game and not 1 of there goals were dissected to the mm,i feel we are going to be looked at closely all seasonIt was shown on the screen as a still. No one around me had a fucking clue why it was disallowed.
Was it fuck spot on,VAR in the Premier League according to the FA is supposed to be clear and obvious mistakes not reviewed in anything other than real time. Also the on field ref missed it apart from offside it should not be looked at, no re reffing of the game was the mantra, clearly changed the criteria within 8 days of the VAR being implemented.The handball decision was spot on.
The penalty a lot less so but clearly more subjectivity is allowed in the laws.
Two things struck me:
1. As we are likely to create the most chances in the division, and score the most goals then it’s likely we will be involved in the greatest number of VAR decisions. Not a thought that’s good for the stress levels but buckle up everyone ...
2. The biggest gap is the moment is the refusal by the PL to allow more transparency of decisions.
Rugby Union has a lot more complicated rules but feel a lot more informed on why decisions have been made than I do in football. We should mike up the refs and show the VAR decisions both at the ground and on telly. VAR will lead to better decisions overall so why don’t the FA/PL (whoever it is) grow a pair and adopt a much more transparent approach. The longer they don’t the more the more bizarre conspiracy theories sometimes witnessed here will grow yet further.
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You answered your own question. Corrupt corrupt corrupt!How can they spot an handball that nobody on the pitch or in the ground or in the commentary box spotted yet miss a blatant penalty that everyone spotted unless they're cheating.