VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

[BlueHammer85]

Just need a a few more tweaks apparently…

Fucking abomination on the game the way PiGMOB have so arrogantly implemented VAR.

oh dear. read the actual tweet you've responded to here.

 

[blueinsa]

oh dear. read the actual tweet you've responded to here.

What the fuck has yet another mealy mouthed apology got to do with my views on VAR?

 

[BlueHammer85]

What the fuck has yet another mealy mouthed apology got to do with my views on VAR?

''This is the 6th occasion this season the PGMOL have apologised for penalties The Potters should have received only 10 games into the season
The refereeing standard in the EFL continues to decline with debatable decisions being made on a weekly basis, maybe it’s time for VAR? ''

You never read this bit.

You assumed the apology was for bad decisions with VAR.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Which is why this ridiculous quest for absolute truth in offside decisions is nonsense. Any tolerance like half a yard, daylight or whatever will lead to the same 1mm issues. Either accept stupid 1mm offside decisions and shut up or just stop all this freeze frame, drawing lines nonsense and leave the on-field decisions alone unless they are clearly wrong from real time video footage, as is supposed to happen with every other offence monitored by VAR.

Personally, I have a fundamental problem with applying the concept of absolute certainty to offside decisions.

Correctomondo!

The bigger the magnification the more problems they create.

It's nearly all about judgements, they can't science the shit out of this.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

''This is the 6th occasion this season the PGMOL have apologised for penalties The Potters should have received only 10 games into the season
The refereeing standard in the EFL continues to decline with debatable decisions being made on a weekly basis, maybe it’s time for VAR? ''

You never read this bit.

You assumed the apology was for bad decisions with VAR.

Well that proves it all then.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Well that proves it all then.

It just proves some posters don't understand that clubs and leagues that don't have VAR are demanding VAR because officiating is even worse without it.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

It just proves some posters don't understand that clubs and leagues that don't have VAR are demanding VAR because officiating is even worse without it.

All the PL clubs wanted VAR. I think there are less clubs who would want VAR now.

They will never stop human error. Putting a technology layer into it hasn't stopped it, what it has done is stifle the game whilst they look deeper and deeper into decision making.

So if we're going to always have human error let's not ruin the game at the same time. Roll it back to just the automated offsides, goal line technology etc. Never 5 6, 7 humans making a judgement. That always leads to confusion.

 

[BlueHammer85]

They will never stop human error. Putting a technology layer into it hasn't stopped it, what it has done is stifle the game whilst they look deeper and deeper into decision making.

So if we're going to always have human error let's not ruin the game at the same time. Roll it back to just the automated offsides, goal line technology etc. Never 5 6, 7 humans making a judgement. That always leads to confusion.

Human error will always occur but you're purposely avoiding 'reducing' and making out that VAR hasn't increased the amount of correct verdicts than before. Nothing with rest of your points.

 

[bluenova]

All the PL clubs wanted VAR. I think there are less clubs who would want VAR now.

They will never stop human error. Putting a technology layer into it hasn't stopped it, what it has done is stifle the game whilst they look deeper and deeper into decision making.

So if we're going to always have human error let's not ruin the game at the same time. Roll it back to just the automated offsides, goal line technology etc. Never 5 6, 7 humans making a judgement. That always leads to confusion.

There's an interesting article, just published in The Athletic. Obviously behind a paywall, but they asked all the PL managers what they thought of VAR, and the Liverpool decision.

All were pretty relaxed about the Liverpool error, and had an attitude that these things happen, but it's better than it was. A couple were asked about the rumour that Darren England won't do any more Liverpool matches, and they seemed unimpressed by that.

One, anonymously, questioned the decision to drop them when they make mistakes. He reckoned that, although the Onana one was a mistake early in the season, taking the ref off for a week put extra pressure on them, particularly as many were quite new to VAR.

'It was a mistake. Accept it' - Asking Premier League managers about VAR controversy

“I trust in VAR. I trust in the car but not the driver.” “It was a mistake. Accept it.” “I’d be surprised if they have gone that way. It’s a significant error but it’s a human being that’s made that error.” This week’s hot topic in the Premier League has, of course, been the VAR error from last...

theathletic.com

 

[halfcenturyup]

It just proves some posters don't understand that clubs and leagues that don't have VAR are demanding VAR because officiating is even worse without it.

Have you got the source for that? I would like to understand the context.