VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

Would you want VAR scrapped?

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West Ham guy is right about dives winning penalties where there’s no contact whatsoever being a thing of the past.

Although they’ve been replaced by the ones where the attacker sticks is foot deliberately into the path of the defender before falling over.

So I’m not sure if it’s a net gain for sportsmanship.
 
Nethermoor said:
The Wolves disallowed goal last night:



I've watched it a few times and i can't see a foul
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I’m not saying it is a foul. It’s too wide an angle to tell either way.

But at the very start of the clip a Wolves player seems to block an opponent with his arm or elbow. So I’m guessing that’s what it was given for at least.
 
Stephen230 said:
I’m not saying it is a foul. It’s too wide an angle to tell either way.

But at the very start of the clip a Wolves player seems to block an opponent with his arm or elbow. So I’m guessing that’s what it was given for at least.
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Yeh it was that. From what it looks like, the Bournemouth player pushes him too or it looks like he's about to.

It's definitely nowhere near play
 
BlueHammer85 said:
How many non contact clear dives have been awarded penalty’s this season ?

Now think back pre VAR Ronaldo, Salah, Kane etc all at it and being rewarded
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You've moved the goalpost a bit from my original post.
Off the top of my head i recall a pen given against your lot where the attacker dived in front of the defender making a clearance and got kicked by the defenders follow through.
The point i was making was 'diving happens now', which it does. Not always resulting in a penalty because it happens all over the pitch and free kicks are given and goals are scored as a result. I'll go further and say var has seen a rise in this type of cheating.

Fifty years of watching the game and i can't remember one specific dive pre var apart from a vague memory of Ronaldo doing it all the time and Salah a couple. I can remember players didn't play up to the var cameras when lightly touched by an opponent. That used to get laughed off the park.

Now, the offsides?
 
Nethermoor said:
Yeh it was that. From what it looks like, the Bournemouth player pushes him too or it looks like he's about to.

It's definitely nowhere near play
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My eyes are far too old and shit to be able to tell from that clip.

But IF it is a foul, I think it’s a fair decision to bring it back as the bloke then tries and fails to cut out the pass to the man who crosses, that leads directly to the goal, so it’s definitely in the same phase of play.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
I honestly think they do, or at least heavily involved in it.
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Remember a few seasons back, Liverpool v Spurs at Anfield…. Late penalty shout for Spurs, but Kane appears offside, but officials not sure if VVD played the ball, meaning Kane isn’t offside. John Moss referee….
To the linesman… “What do the TV guys think, what’ve they said”? All picked up on pitch side mic.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Just a question. This is the image from Dale Johnson's review of the game last night. I guess it's official as it has the dotted line on it.

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My question is: isn't there a big Liverpool boot all over the line drawn from Konate's shoulder?

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So did they choose the wrong point to judge the offside? Again? It didn't really matter as the goal was given, but 2 more inches and it could have been wrongly disallowed?
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He’s clearly onside if they are using the cuff of the shirt still. Not sure what Dale is getting at
 
inchy14 said:
And officials. How the fuck is that happening? Absolutely no way they’re not talking to them.
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They’ve (TV commentators) admitted they can hear the communications at Stockley Park, but say the var can’t hear them
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Except the clear elbow in the face which impedes the defenders run.
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I don’t know what your agenda is on this thread. You basically poo poo anyone’s views if they are against Var. So me a favour and ignore me as I basically stopped reading anything you say on this subject as imo it’s all bollocks
 
Stephen230 said:
My eyes are far too old and shit to be able to tell from that clip.

But IF it is a foul, I think it’s a fair decision to bring it back as the bloke then tries and fails to cut out the pass to the man who crosses, that leads directly to the goal, so it’s definitely in the same phase of play.
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the arsenal foul was same phase of play but too far back in play
make it up as go along
 
levets said:
Remember a few seasons back, Liverpool v Spurs at Anfield…. Late penalty shout for Spurs, but Kane appears offside, but officials not sure if VVD played the ball, meaning Kane isn’t offside. John Moss referee….
To the linesman… “What do the TV guys think, what’ve they said”? All picked up on pitch side mic.
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Remember that well. CUNTS!!!
 
inchy14 said:
I know, but explain how they’re saying things like it’s off or it’s a goal then whilst the ref still is stood waiting with his hand on his earpiece?
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Probably because if you watch some of those ‘Mic’d Up’ clips, the VAR will tell the referee it’s onside for example, which the TV people are aware of. But then he’ll tell him to hold fire while they check that nothing else untoward has gone. They call it checking the APP ( Attacking Phase of Play )
 
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