VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

[Brightwell’s left peg]

I like the idea of automated offside but I wish that they changed the rule so that there had to be clear "daylight" to be offside. That gives the attacker more of an advantage and is nice and simple.

That just moves the point of debate a little further up the pitch. Now they draw lines to see if you’re a mm offside. They’ll still draw lines to see if there was clear daylight. People will argue over whether there was daylight at the point of the pass or whether the attackers leg was just in line with the defenders leg etc, which frame was used etc etc. all the same issues and interpretations, just a yard or so further up the pitch.

 

[TonyM]

That just moves the point of debate a little further up the pitch. Now they draw lines to see if you’re a mm offside. They’ll still draw lines to see if there was clear daylight. People will argue over whether there was daylight at the point of the pass or whether the attackers leg was just in line with the defenders leg etc, which frame was used etc etc. all the same issues and interpretations, just a yard or so further up the pitch.

Exactly. Same lines but with the advantage to the attacker.

 

[madloaf]

If the trade off between the sheer unadulterated joy of celebrating a goal is a 14% less accurately refereed game then it's a trade off I'm very willing to take. Refereeing accuracy is not my primary concern whilst watching football. Other sports stop all the time, let them have the technology. Football is different. This isn't about not moving with the times, it's about keeping it's soul intact.

 

[Andy TheCatalyst Morrison]

I saw Rishi Sunak hitting a nail in with the side of a hammer (mis-use), should we get rid of hammers?

No. But we should definitely get rid of Sunak

 

[blueste41]

Only here.... it works fine in other countries...

Really! It's not what I see and hear, what are you seeing, reading that I'm not?

 

[blueste41]

Which way do people think City will vote?

 

[Oystercatcher28]

If the trade off between the sheer unadulterated joy of celebrating a goal is a 14% less accurately refereed game then it's a trade off I'm very willing to take. Refereeing accuracy is not my primary concern whilst watching football. Other sports stop all the time, let them have the technology. Football is different. This isn't about not moving with the times, it's about keeping it's soul intact.

Yeah, let's go back to Goole old time wasting being the only stop that affects our moods. VAR has sapped some of the spontaneity of celebration.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Of course they would introduce a resolution to abolish VAR instead of a package of resolutions to address the many issues with it, the biggest (and easiest to address) being transparency and speed of decision.

That's an important point. If there was any leadership at the PL they would have negotiated a different resolution looking at ways to "improve" it. They have just approved SAOT for Christ's sake. Now they are voting on scrapping the whole thing?

It's ridiculous that any club can raise an issue for a vote amongst 20 clubs who all have different objectives, none of which are the benefit to the game. That's what Masters and his disappearing chairman are for, but crickets. What we have at the moment isn't "democracy" or even "governance". It's anarchy. Hopeless.

 

[hertsblue]

Which way do people think City will vote?

Think for as we have seen the decisions Red Tops got before Var. They still get decisions like last night ( though Gordon is a serial diver) but its no where near to the decisions they got before Var.

Var needs:
Semi automatic offside which is coming.
Var specialist refs, not on field refs doing Var.
Better frame rates as its too easy to manipulate as to when the ball was kicked.
Open communication like Rugby.
Get rid of the clear and obvious error as again open to manipulation

 

[blueinsa]

Fuck it off and when they have fucked it off, fuck it off a little bit more until no more fucks can be given!