VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

[HelloCity]

It's an absolutely insane thing to admit to, but raises further questions about the integrity of VAR and officiating in general this country.

This should be headline news across the board. A referee is admitting to purposely not giving decisions.

If this is what they admit then imagine what they don’t admit.

 

[cheekybids]

Abuse of discretion.

Great minds ;)

This could be where we get our bollocking from the solicitors lol…

 

[Kmezn]

Oh OK, I wasn't trying to be argumentative, I get how AI can evolve in the future, but SAOT isn't AI as far as I am concerned, it's just a clever piece of sodtware. I will be impressed if it ever starts thinking up new offside rules on its own, though :)

Let's face it, it couldn't do any worse .....

if it helps as a developer i've made a few algorithmic features which have then been written by sales as AI. you have to take it with a grain of salt that ANYTHING can be exagerated to be 'AI assisted' if it uses enough 'creative marketing'

i'll leave that there but yes i agree SAOT is not AI but to some people they are indestinguishable from each other.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

if it helps as a developer i've made a few algorithmic features which have then been written by sales as AI. you have to take it with a grain of salt that ANYTHING can be exagerated to be 'AI assisted' if it uses enough 'creative marketing'

i'll leave that there but yes i agree SAOT is not AI but to some people they are indestinguishable from each other.

people get confused with ML, AI, GAI. SAOT falls into the AI category for many reasons

 

[HelloCity]

A Leicester player said on a podcast last year that a referee told him they gave a free kick when they knew it wasn’t one because they wanted Leicester to win the league. The media barely covered it.

 

[halfcenturyup]

people get confused with ML, AI, GAI. SAOT falls into the AI category for many reasons

Not really the place for an AI thread, but it's interesting. Care to provide a few reasons?

 

[Kmezn]

Not really the place for an AI thread, but it's interesting. Care to provide a few reasons?

very quickly and a gross oversimplification off the top of my head:

an algorithm is a set of instructions done to achieve a task. think maths and scientific formulae.

multiple algorithms for arguments sake create a program in software allowing it topreform certian actions.

for machine learning and AI it depends where you want to draw the line.
e.g. a smart speaker (alexa, google home) isn't AI. it's taking an input usually voice 'play music' that then looks for key words play and music. if it doesn't understand my accent and only gets 'play' then it returns something like 'would you like to play a game' or similar.
if it understands 'music' it returns the function 'playing music on spotify'
where machine learning comes in it will take all of those voice clips by EVERYONE using it to say 'play music' comparing and contrasting accents and accuracy of responses as per an algorithmic feedback to define what a 'correct' response would be.

i can provide some info if you would like to know more =]


edit- excuse the long reply but it's a passion subject of mine and the term ai is normally used for simple things and people expect HAL9000 when they just get voice detection.

 

[Nascent Blues]

Mike Dean could state that he takes bungs from a number of managers to supplement his pension, yet some posters on here would still find a way to explain why there's no corruption.

 

[foggy1974]

Those 2 sets are mutually exclusive, mate.

Show me an ex-player who doesn't still possess the tribal connection to his ex-employer and/or hold grudges and deep-seated opinions about other teams, and I'll show you some pictures of me kissing my own arse!

How many ex players know the rulebook

 

[meltonblue]

Abuse of discretion.

For the benefits of the feelings of another referee though…?

It just feels a very odd thing to feel the need to apply legal definition to.