VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

Would you want VAR scrapped?


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what level of error reduction would you be happy with ?
Outraged fans should not mean the game should be changed.

Ref not spotting a CLEAR dive and awarding a penalty
Ref not awarding a penalty when a player is CLEARLY fouled
Officials missing a CLEAR offside when a player is onside.

those above are what happens week in, week out without VAR.

VAR will get those clear ones correct 99% of the time, bar the odd miscommunication/fuck up which will always happen.
 
Ref not spotting a CLEAR dive and awarding a penalty
Ref not awarding a penalty when a player is CLEARLY fouled
Officials missing a CLEAR offside when a player is onside.

those above are what happens week in, week out without VAR.

VAR will get those clear ones correct 99% of the time, bar the odd miscommunication/fuck up which will always happen.
How many times has your first one happened?
If the ref has deemed no foul then how does var find it a CLEAR foul?
Refs get the CLEAR ones right 99 of the time
 
Ref not spotting a CLEAR dive and awarding a penalty
Ref not awarding a penalty when a player is CLEARLY fouled
Officials missing a CLEAR offside when a player is onside.

those above are what happens week in, week out without VAR.

VAR will get those clear ones correct 99% of the time, bar the odd miscommunication/fuck up which will always happen.
On the first VAR is rarely used
On the second VAR is not used or supposed to be used if a ref is adamant (the cross wave arm gesture) it isn't a foul as the ref has been clear himself.
There would be no need for this with automated offsides, the ref would get a signal similar to the goaline tech.

Our offficials fuck all 3 up constantly myway with VAR.
VAR won't work effectively with our officials.

you are arguing the wrong point VAR isn't the issue but you won't accept it is useless, whoch it is while we have the darren englands, michael olivers and paul tierneys using it.
 
Ref not spotting a CLEAR dive and awarding a penalty
Ref not awarding a penalty when a player is CLEARLY fouled
Officials missing a CLEAR offside when a player is onside.

those above are what happens week in, week out without VAR.

VAR will get those clear ones correct 99% of the time, bar the odd miscommunication/fuck up which will always happen.
It’s ruined the game though mate. When was the last time you celebrated a goal without thinking to yourself “this will probably have to be checked”?
 
Yes, I am not anti VAR but at present it is not being used usefully, and auto offside tech needs to be brought in for it.

I know what you are saying, but you realise SAOT isn't the answer to life, the universe and everything? It will be just as flawed as now on the tight calls. Only quicker and with nice graphics to cover it up.
 
Yes, I am not anti VAR but at present it is not being used usefully, and auto offside tech needs to be brought in for it.

then we are pretty much aligned , yet i'm apparently in the 0.01% camp.

and I also agree with these points :

How much better can you expect one to be? I mean, these are professional referees with years of training. Being able to call a correct decision with the benefit of multiple slo mo replays shouldn’t be that fucking hard.

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but you realise SAOT isn't the answer to life, the universe and everything? It will be just as flawed as now on the tight calls. Only quicker and with nice graphics to cover it up.



Beauty of VAR is there is ways to implement decisions better but some really need to accept there's no flawless system and will always be some grey areas which people disagree with.
1 bad VAR decisions seem to override 10 good ones but the outrage over the 1 makes it seem VAR is getting everything wrong.
 
then we are pretty much aligned , yet i'm apparently in the 0.01% camp.

and I also agree with these points :

How much better can you expect one to be? I mean, these are professional referees with years of training. Being able to call a correct decision with the benefit of multiple slo mo replays shouldn’t be that fucking hard.

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but you realise SAOT isn't the answer to life, the universe and everything? It will be just as flawed as now on the tight calls. Only quicker and with nice graphics to cover it up.



Beauty of VAR is there is ways to implement decisions better but some really need to accept there's no flawless system and will always be some grey areas which people disagree with.
1 bad VAR decisions seem to override 10 good ones but the outrage over the 1 makes it seem VAR is getting everything wrong.
VAR gives the officials EVERY opportunity to get decisions correct, but when they miss something SO obvious (Chelsea penalty shout), then you HAVE to question the integrity of the PGMOL.
 
VAR gives the officials EVERY opportunity to get decisions correct, but when they miss something SO obvious (Chelsea penalty shout), then you HAVE to question the integrity of the PGMOL.

It’s beyond frustrating when they do miss obvious ones.

I do think however, it will always happen. No matter if we had the greatest officials in the world on the monitor's.
 
It’s beyond frustrating when they do miss obvious ones.

I do think however, it will always happen. No matter if we had the greatest officials in the world on the monitor's.
Which we patently don’t have, they are beyond crap.
 
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Which were patently don’t have, they are beyond crap.

As Phil previously said ….

‘How much better can you expect one to be? I mean, these are professional referees with years of training. Being able to call a correct decision with the benefit of multiple slo mo replays shouldn’t be that fucking hard ‘

Genuinely don’t know the answer.

Hope to get officials that get every single easy decision correct 100% of the time. I don’t have faith that will happen.
Take away VAR and the decision making is even more farcical.
 

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