VAR (PL introduction 2019)

BlueHammer85 said:
and all the incorrect embarrassingly wrong decisions we see on a weekly basis without VAR ?
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Not sure how you find them 'embarrasing' but referees have been getting things wrong since football was invented.
What we see in the modern era, and more so in the last couple of years, are tv companies focussing on the decisions made rather than the football. Sky love a good slo-mo and the clown that presents on bt is obsessed with wrong decisions to the point where the half time chat and clips focus solely on them and forget about the actual footy.
Watch nbcsn or foreign streams where half time is usually used to show actual highlights of the game. Very little is made refereeing decisions and there's never a few 'experts' blathering on about whether it should have been a throw in or foul.
 
stonerblue said:
Not sure how you find them 'embarrasing' but referees have been getting things wrong since football was invented.
What we see in the modern era, and more so in the last couple of years, are tv companies focussing on the decisions made rather than the football. Sky love a good slo-mo and the clown that presents on bt is obsessed with wrong decisions to the point where the half time chat and clips focus solely on them and forget about the actual footy.
Watch nbcsn or foreign streams where half time is usually used to show actual highlights of the game. Very little is made refereeing decisions and there's never a few 'experts' blathering on about whether it should have been a throw in or foul.
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Agree. But you just blames pundits and tv companies. What about the thousands that walk out the stadium moaning about the ref and how red card decision or penalty given had ruined the game, and then it’s all talked about on forums which leads to accusations that the ref was corrupt. It’s the fans who have led the way to where some technological help was needed for refs - you are literally saying refs have always got it wrong, so let it continue! If that’s the case then don’t moan when a clear obvious decision goes against your team.
 
Not a fan of VAR at all but if it absolutely has to happen(which of course it does) then here is my idea:

Use VAR for penalties, free kicks, sending offs etc by all means but abandon it for after goals have gone in. The way I see it, under the old system, say a goal went in, the referee signalled it, the players celebrated and then the linesman suddenly decided to flag for an offside, the goal would still be given because once a goal has been officially awarded there is no going back, that's the way it always was so why has VAR changed this?

Let the VAR ref look after things like red cards, fouls and other things the referee might have missed and let the linesman focus solely on offsides(making him more likely to get them right more often), but for God's sake, stop interfering with goals and playing with everyone's emotions. So that way everybody's happy, lots more right decisions and once goals are given by the ref they can't be ungiven.

Otherwise VAR will make me fall out of love with the game.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Agree. But you just blames pundits and tv companies. What about the thousands that walk out the stadium moaning about the ref and how red card decision or penalty given had ruined the game, and then it’s all talked about on forums which leads to accusations that the ref was corrupt. It’s the fans who have led the way to where some technological help was needed for refs - you are literally saying refs have always got it wrong, so let it continue! If that’s the case then don’t moan when a clear obvious decision goes against your team.
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Clear & obvious decisions go against our team with v.a.r.
 
SVP said:
not on the evidence of this tournament-or the champions(?) league this year.
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I thought it worked well, didn’t less the ‘entertainment’ factor and most decisions it gets right.
The handball against you should have been given - but at real play and certain angles it couldn’t been seen (without VAR it still would have been given) during champions league - Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola said he is "a big fan of VAR" despite his side conceding two penalties and having a man sent off in a Champions League last-16 first-leg win at Schalke’ I know that’s just his opinion. But can you imagine when you don’t get a penalty that should have been without VAR next season ?? He would be screaming for it. And so would majority of fans.
As I say, I still think it won’t be perfect for a long time yet , VAR has only been used once for World Cup and champions league and never for Prem - it is still very early days.
I just don’t like the fact major decisions are given by a ref who is forced to guess rather than allowing him to a second view or opinion by other officials watching it. At least when VAR gets it wrong we can really point the finger , rather than accepting a refs guess decision.
 
There won't be a last minute winner in the PL next season that isn't subjected to VAR. The conceding team will insist on it.

And then it will be up to the remote referee to apply his own brand of subjectivity. There's nearly always a reason to disallow a goal if you look hard enough.
 
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