VAR thread 2022/23

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Penalty very hard to take, especially after the dodgy offside they got against us earlier in the season.

How many times do we come off the pitch against united talking about how they benefitted from a dodgy decision? Every game.

The foul on Kev, we were awarded a near identical penalty a few weeks back, but today at Wembley against ragchester united, it's not a penalty?

And why didn't var recommended a review of pumpkin head's challenge? The referee clearly got the free kick wrong as he awarded it to them despite the foul clearly being on stones, so surely var has a duty to ask the referee to review when there is a knee high, studs up challenge?
 
Colin Bell (genuine name) said:
This is where the system falls down though. Clear and obvious is a get out clause along with when VAR can intervene.

“You made a clear and obvious error. There was no foul by Akanji but there was a definite foul by Casemiro. I have reviewed the footage and I don’t believe that it is enough to send Casemiro off. Please have a look and decide if you made the correct on field decision.” which should happen, but doesn’t.

“I can understand why you would think that Wan Bisaka did not foul De Bruyne in the box there and even though footage shows that a foul occurred and a penalty should be awarded, it is not clear and obvious to you on the field, therefore it is safe to stand by your original decision”. Which shouldn’t happen but does.

” You missed a definite handball by Grealish. Even although he had no opportunity to move his hand away from its position as the ball struck his hand and that his eyes were closed and he had no fucking idea what was going on, I believe his hands were in an unnatural position and according to the current rules it is a penalty. Please take a look at the monitor and I will show you the only camera angle where you can’t see that his eyes are closed” Which is what happened but shouldn’t.

Total fucking farce.
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This ‘clear and obvious error’ malarky is the get out. Its a ridiculous rule. It makes
VAR an opinion again where as it should be black n white.

Its either a foul/handball or its not. It cant be grey and down to ‘hmmm it was a foul but we dont think it was that obvious so crack on’.

My worry for both finals was that VAR and the powers that be will try and fuck us over and yesterday they tried their best.
I think next week will be even worse with uefa
 
Great untold story tbh about how pep has had to manage against var and ref decisions.

But VAR is here to stay and we can now see why. Its a tool to legitimise extremely odd decisions that never existed before.

Take VAR away and we get our game back with less manipulation. So angry that they tried that shit yesterday , and every game we play them.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
This ‘clear and obvious error’ malarky is the get out. Its a ridiculous rule. It makes
VAR an opinion again where as it should be black n white.

Its either a foul/handball or its not. It cant be grey and down to ‘hmmm it was a foul but we dont think it was that obvious so crack on’.

My worry for both finals was that VAR and the powers that be will try and fuck us over and yesterday they tried their best.
I think next week will be even worse with uefa
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No.
No team can be helped as much as that lot.
Somehow a poor mid table team has finished 3rd in the league.
Won a cup.
And got to the final of another.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Here we go. This is why it is bollocks.

PGMOLs excuses lined up:

Casemiro challenge wasn't a clear and obvious red (I thought the referees made those decisions?) so they couldn't intervene by recommending a yellow or changing the free-kick.

Grealish penalty was correct by the letter of the law (it wasn't) but the law may be changed next year.

de Bruyne penalty was a coming together.(no it wasn't), not enough in it to change the referee's decision (yes there was). Wouldn't have been overturned if the referee had given it.

Did I miss anything? Waiting for Dale Johnson at ESPN to confirm.

It's easy, this gaslighting lark.. and people on here fall for it as well.
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Fuck me. I was spot on.

www.espn.com

FA Cup final VAR Review: Grealish handball, Casemiro red card, Fred on De Bruyne

Manchester City beat Manchester United 2-1 at Wembley to win the FA Cup, but the match didn't pass by without its fair share of VAR drama.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
halfcenturyup said:
Fuck me. I was spot on.

www.espn.com

FA Cup final VAR Review: Grealish handball, Casemiro red card, Fred on De Bruyne

Manchester City beat Manchester United 2-1 at Wembley to win the FA Cup, but the match didn't pass by without its fair share of VAR drama.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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PGMOL propaganda I think. Someone's been keen to spend time coming up with examples that prove they were correct decisions there.

This is what VAR has brought, the ability to make any call they want and justify it when we ALL know what we see.

Those decisions without VAR are straight forward, just like the rashford offside in the last game. But they're relying on the fact that it's all subjective.
 
Doesn't make sense.... Grealish's hand ball was referred to VAR yet because it wasn't clear and obvious Kev's penalty wasn't referred because it was. How does that work?

Grealish's handball was anything but clear and obvious and the exact opposite could be said about the foul on Kev.

If ever you needed a clear example of corruption, look no further than this example.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Doesn't make sense.... Grealish's hand ball was referred to VAR yet because it wasn't clear and obvious Kev's penalty wasn't referred because it was. How does that work?

Grealish's handball was anything but clear and obvious and the exact opposite could be said about the foul on Kev.

If ever you needed a clear example of corruption, look no further than this example.
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Nothing is referred to VAR.
 
All I want is honesty.

No one has the balls to ask Webb does entertainment value come into play with some VAR decisions.

For example, Ca$himero's tackle yesterday. Had it been refereed correctly and he had been red carded it could have turned the match into a training game for us and that's not good for TV. Was that decision made to protect the product over the laws of the game?

If they admitted it I'd half accept it and would get so pissed off about it. Currently my belief is it's used to manipulate matches for both entertainment, and corrupt purposes I would like to be proven wrong.
 
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