Vincent Kompany | Bayern Munich Manager

[LangleyBlue1970]

Except you've been saying that about the *Bayern* job the whole time. Now Bayern is becoming the proving ground, it's a bit of a case of moving the goalposts.

Nobody has suggested he's proved himself for City already.

Moving what goalposts?

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Well thank god Barcelona didn’t do it the right way in 2008 and gave a young man a chance to succeed with his bright ideas.

When did Pep relegate a team and then get a job at a club he had nothing to do with?

Pep was groomed for that job in an institution he had been part of his entire life.

 

[COAT_OF_ARMS]

Moving what goalposts?

First you are saying in every comment that he should not get the job where he can prove himself to City's level. Then you are saying he hasn't proven himself to City's level (when nobody had suggested otherwise). It seems you want to have your cake and eat it. He can either "do it the right way" or not, but he needs the opportunities to be open in order to do that.

Thus far, that's exactly what he is doing - he is not at the top yet, still on a journey. Bayern is part of that journey, finding themselves in the postition that they are currently in.

He has not walked straight into the Man City job, a la Pep walking straight into the Barca job, or Zidane walking straight into the Real job.

Instead, he is working his way up by showing he can improve players and squads at various levels of the game, showing that he can rebuild squads at different levels of the game, showing that he can implement his style at different levels of the game, showing that he can teach players, as well as motivate them.

Then each time after demonstrating these things, moving on to another level to demonstrate it there. It seems he is doing exactly what you want him to do... he is doing it what you consider to be "the right way"... except you've been saying the people allowing him to do that shouldn't allow him to do that... if that was the case, then there would be no way of doing what you seem to expect coaches to do.

That's what I mean by moving the goalposts, you've changed the very definition of what you're criticising, into something that hasn't even happened. He is not the manager of Manchester City F.C.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

First you are saying in every comment that he should not get the job where he can prove himself to City's level. Then you are saying he hasn't proven himself to City's level (when nobody had suggested otherwise). It seems you want to have your cake and eat it. He can either "do it the right way" or not, but he needs the opportunities to be open in order to do that.

Thus far, that's exactly what he is doing - he is not at the top yet, still on a journey. Bayern is part of that journey, finding themselves in the postition that they are currently in.

He has not walked straight into the Man City job, a la Pep walking straight into the Barca job, or Zidane walking straight into the Real job.

Instead, he is working his way up by showing he can improve players and squads at various levels of the game, showing that he can rebuild squads at different levels of the game, showing that he can implement his style at different levels of the game, showing that he can teach players, as well as motivate them.

Then each time after demonstrating these things, moving on to another level to demonstrate it there. It seems he is doing exactly what you want him to do... he is doing it what you consider to be "the right way"... except you've been saying the people allowing him to do that shouldn't allow him to do that... if that was the case, then there would be no way of doing what you seem to expect coaches to do.

That's what I mean by moving the goalposts, you've changed the very definition of what you're criticising, into something that hasn't even happened. He is not the manager of Manchester City F.C.

I couldn’t even read that. Too much.

The facts are there for all to see.

 

[COAT_OF_ARMS]

I couldn’t even read that. Too much.

The facts are there for all to see.

That they are.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

That they are.

All the best to you. Clearly a difference of opinions and ideologies here.

The end game, and this isn’t goal posts, is he ends up here and is ultra successful.

 

[COAT_OF_ARMS]

All the best to you. Clearly a difference of opinions and ideologies here.

The end game, and this isn’t goal posts, is he ends up here and is ultra successful.

All the best to you too. That comment I completely agree with.

If that end-game does prove to happen, I don't doubt everybody on here would be chuffed for Vinnie, and overjoyed for what it means for us. Here's hoping.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Good luck Vinny.

Look forward to our inevitable draw in the CL with you.

 

[give it to gordon]

Sunday morning so just flicking through my phone.
The BBC seem to like calling Vinny 8th choice. Seems abit odd.
I've never see Masters of the pl called 4th choice.

 

[CC1]

Agent VK looking to sign moaning Fernandez - only decent player at the swamp -:)