Was this the story pulled earlier? Mancini V Tevez {merged}

[smudgedj]

I bet Tevez is at City longer than the Italian is...

agreed.

I disagree, Tevez is far easier to replace than the Italian, Marwood has already hinted that there is no 'player power' at city and they do what the manager tells them to do.

 

[Anonymous]

agreed.

I disagree, Tevez is far easier to replace than the Italian, Marwood has already hinted that there is no 'player power' at city and they do what the manager tells them to do.

Doesn't make sense that mate. It would be much more difficult to replace one of the top 5 players in the world (which is what Carlos is on current form) than to replace a manager who it's arguable would even be in the top 10 managers currently working in the world.

 

[pee dubya]

I disagree, Tevez is far easier to replace than the Italian, Marwood has already hinted that there is no 'player power' at city and they do what the manager tells them to do.

Doesn't make sense that mate. It would be much more difficult to replace one of the top 5 players in the world (which is what Carlos is on current form) than to replace a manager who it's arguable would even be in the top 10 managers currently working in the world.

Depends on availability surely? Although you could be right.

Apparently it cost Real Madrid all told 100 million euros to sack Pellegrini and appoint Mourinho (including the wages over the course of his and his staffs contract). Obviously that's a special case, but it's still an expensive business changing managers if you're going for the best.

 

[Ragnarok]

I disagree, Tevez is far easier to replace than the Italian, Marwood has already hinted that there is no 'player power' at city and they do what the manager tells them to do.

Doesn't make sense that mate. It would be much more difficult to replace one of the top 5 players in the world (which is what Carlos is on current form) than to replace a manager who it's arguable would even be in the top 10 managers currently working in the world.

Could you name the managers who , in your opinion , are in the top 10?

 

[Damocles]

I disagree, Tevez is far easier to replace than the Italian, Marwood has already hinted that there is no 'player power' at city and they do what the manager tells them to do.

Doesn't make sense that mate. It would be much more difficult to replace one of the top 5 players in the world (which is what Carlos is on current form) than to replace a manager who it's arguable would even be in the top 10 managers currently working in the world.

Please name 10 better, whilst remembering his age and record compared to the ones that you are about to name.

 

[dannybcity]

Why would either be leaving, surely this has cleared things up?

 

[Anonymous]

Doesn't make sense that mate. It would be much more difficult to replace one of the top 5 players in the world (which is what Carlos is on current form) than to replace a manager who it's arguable would even be in the top 10 managers currently working in the world.

Please name 10 better, whilst remembering his age and record compared to the ones that you are about to name.

The thing is mate, his age is irrelevant. He could turn out to be as good as the likes of Slur Alex, Mourinho, Wenger, Lippi, Del Bosque, Hitzfeld et al. But for the moment he's a bright young coach who has achieved a hell of a lot in a short space of time...

He's not irreplaceable by any stretch of the imagination, and certainly going back to where this particular conversation started, it would be much easier to replace Mancini than to replace Tevez if we wanted like for like quality...<br /><br />-- Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:48 pm --<br /><br />

Why would either be leaving, surely this has cleared things up?

I agree mate - it's just a few people in this thread have stated that they can see Tevez leaving next summer, and another has stated that Tevez is only loved because he joined from United and that he's already acting like he's bigger than the club. All things which I consider to be totally ridiculous. I just wanted to post my opinion, that I can see Tevez finishing his career in Europe with us, and that I think he'll be here longer than Mancini...

 

[Ray78]

There is no suitable replacement for both Mancini or Tevez at the moment. The only slight concern is that Tevez is our Captain (appointed by Mancini) and will cause splits at City.

 

[pee dubya]

Please name 10 better, whilst remembering his age and record compared to the ones that you are about to name.

The thing is mate, his age is irrelevant. He could turn out to be as good as the likes of Slur Alex, Mourinho, Wenger, Lippi, Del Bosque, Hitzfeld et al. But for the moment he's a bright young coach who has achieved a hell of a lot in a short space of time...

He's not irreplaceable by any stretch of the imagination, and certainly going back to where this particular conversation started, it would be much easier to replace Mancini than to replace Tevez if we wanted like for like quality...

If you replaced Mancini, would you just be replacing Mancini though? Balotelli springs to mind, would he want to stay?

Look at it the other way, it would maybe be easier to replace Mancini, but i'd imagine far more has been invested in Mancini + his signings and staff, than in Tevez.

Of course some of them would be transferable to the next manager, but i'd suggest not all.

 

[Anonymous]

The thing is mate, his age is irrelevant. He could turn out to be as good as the likes of Slur Alex, Mourinho, Wenger, Lippi, Del Bosque, Hitzfeld et al. But for the moment he's a bright young coach who has achieved a hell of a lot in a short space of time...

He's not irreplaceable by any stretch of the imagination, and certainly going back to where this particular conversation started, it would be much easier to replace Mancini than to replace Tevez if we wanted like for like quality...

If you replaced Mancini, would you just be replacing Mancini though? Balotelli springs to mind, would he want to stay?

Look at it the other way, it would maybe be easier to replace Mancini, but i'd imagine far more has been invested in Mancini + his signings and staff, than in Tevez.

Of course some of them would be transferable to the next manager, but i'd suggest not all.

One of the key features of the post Hughes transfers was that the players were sourced by a committee rather than by the manager. The idea was to not end up in a situation like we ended up with when Mancini pitched up where he basically decided that half the squad wasn't good enough. Balo is the obvious exception...

I totally take your point about what's been invested in Mancini, but as we saw when Hughes was sacked, investment or no investment, when the Sheikh decides it's not working, he isn't going to hang around mulling over whether to pull the trigger...

As I said above though, this conversation is purely hypothetical - Mancini's doing an excellent job and has bought some top class players and there's no reason to think he won't be here for years to come. When I posted that I thought Tevez would be here longer than him it was simply because my belief is that we will be his last club before he moves back to Argentina, so will be here for some time yet...