Underachievement and lack of effort are bitter pills to swallow for most of us. You have entirely missed the point.
Yea. Being beaten is one thing. Not trying is another.
Underachievement and lack of effort are bitter pills to swallow for most of us. You have entirely missed the point.
Reading some posts on this and other threads it appears that many of our fanbase are the equivalent of Chavy lottery winners, who have won the jackpot (probably with a stolen ticket) and swapped their stinking council house for a country mansion, and a few years later turned the once beautifully manicured grounds into a cess pit filled with old dirty baths and rusting white goods, who then complain when their neighbours don't like them.
We were told when we were taken over that the money would change us, make us more entitled, cause us to lose our soul.
Whilst happily that is less true of the club, sadly it is fast becoming apparent that it is very true of many of our fanbase. I always used to defend us to fans of other clubs who would squawk that city fans would quickly become spoilt and 'glory hunters'.
"No we won't" I would say, "we have too much shared history of misery, disappointment, and abject failure to ever turn into that sort of fan. Our collective ability to see the good in any and every situation will see us through in the time-honoured manner of every city fan for generations. It's bred into us from the day we go to our first match with our dads to never take good times for granted but instead to always remain grounded and grateful for those fleeting moments of triumph"
"You'll see" they said, those fucking red bastards.
They were right, I was wrong.
Our fathers and grandfathers would be turning in their graves if they read bluemoon these days.
Some of you are a fucking disgrace.
You clearly mean what you say and are passionate about it mate, but I disagree with near enough everything you've just written.
"A collective ability to see the good in every and any situation" that's certainly not my experience of being a City fan for 30 odd years. My dad started taking me when I was 5, his dad took him, my whole mums side of the family are dyed in the wool blues, half my mates are.
The collective mindset that runs through most of them is that if something will go wrong, it will. Typical City. Cups for cock-ups. Not a jolly, positive, optimistic attitude that everything will be alright.
In fact, the gallows humour, the collective mentally that something will inevitably go wrong is what the club was famous for, for over 30 years. I don't know where this cheerful optimism that you have experienced has come from.
When Swales was selling all our good youth players, bringing in journeymen, not investing in the club, running it in to the ground, the mood wasn't of cheerful optimism. It was a pent up frustrated anger that we wanted better. The resilience of the fans and determination for change, for wanting better was reflected in the Swales Out protests that resulted in the Chairman stepping down.
Going down to the third division with the insipid Alan Ball, Frank Clarke, Phil Neal at the reigns, there was no cheerful collective optimism. There was a widespread anger that we were grossly underachieving, that we wanted better. That the club deserved better.
It's the same over the last 2 years with Pellegrini. People are not happy. Fans don't want us to not even muster a shot on goal in the biggest game of the season while the manager sits on his hands. They don't want the best squad in the league and finish 5th. They don't want 442 against Barcelona or Bayern Munich. They want to compete, to do our best, to reach our potential.
There is widespread discontent with how the manager and the team has performed. But it's absolutely nothing new. It's nothing to do with money.
The investment in the club means expectations are inevitably raised. The bar of what people will be happy with has raised, but that's obvious, surely? We have Aguero up front, not Dickov.
All City fans ever want is for the team and the club to do their best, to reach their potential. The fans aren't happy today because we are not reaching our potential. The same as we weren't under Swales. The same as we weren't under Frank Clarke. It's exactly the same today as it was 20 years ago, it just now our potential is so much greater than it was then.
Reading some posts on this and other threads it appears that many of our fanbase are the equivalent of Chavy lottery winners, who have won the jackpot (probably with a stolen ticket) and swapped their stinking council house for a country mansion, and a few years later turned the once beautifully manicured grounds into a cess pit filled with old dirty baths and rusting white goods, who then complain when their neighbours don't like them.
We were told when we were taken over that the money would change us, make us more entitled, cause us to lose our soul.
Whilst happily that is less true of the club, sadly it is fast becoming apparent that it is very true of many of our fanbase. I always used to defend us to fans of other clubs who would squawk that city fans would quickly become spoilt and 'glory hunters'.
"No we won't" I would say, "we have too much shared history of misery, disappointment, and abject failure to ever turn into that sort of fan. Our collective ability to see the good in any and every situation will see us through in the time-honoured manner of every city fan for generations. It's bred into us from the day we go to our first match with our dads to never take good times for granted but instead to always remain grounded and grateful for those fleeting moments of triumph"
"You'll see" they said, those fucking red bastards.
They were right, I was wrong.
Our fathers and grandfathers would be turning in their graves if they read bluemoon these days.
Some of you are a fucking disgrace.
You clearly mean what you say and are passionate about it mate, but I disagree with near enough everything you've just written.
"A collective ability to see the good in every and any situation" that's certainly not my experience of being a City fan for 30 odd years. My dad started taking me when I was 5, his dad took him, my whole mums side of the family are dyed in the wool blues, half my mates are.
The collective mindset that runs through most of them is that if something will go wrong, it will. Typical City. Cups for cock-ups. Not a jolly, positive, optimistic attitude that everything will be alright.
In fact, the gallows humour, the collective mentally that something will inevitably go wrong is what the club was famous for, for over 30 years. I don't know where this cheerful optimism that you have experienced has come from.
When Swales was selling all our good youth players, bringing in journeymen, not investing in the club, running it in to the ground, the mood wasn't of cheerful optimism. It was a pent up frustrated anger that we wanted better. The resilience of the fans and determination for change, for wanting better was reflected in the Swales Out protests that resulted in the Chairman stepping down.
Going down to the third division with the insipid Alan Ball, Frank Clarke, Phil Neal at the reigns, there was no cheerful collective optimism. There was a widespread anger that we were grossly underachieving, that we wanted better. That the club deserved better.
It's the same over the last 2 years with Pellegrini. People are not happy. Fans don't want us to not even muster a shot on goal in the biggest game of the season while the manager sits on his hands. They don't want the best squad in the league and finish 5th. They don't want 442 against Barcelona or Bayern Munich. They want to compete, to do our best, to reach our potential.
There is widespread discontent with how the manager and the team has performed. But it's absolutely nothing new. It's nothing to do with money.
The investment in the club means expectations are inevitably raised. The bar of what people will be happy with has raised, but that's obvious, surely? We have Aguero up front, not Dickov.
All City fans ever want is for the team and the club to do their best, to reach their potential. The fans aren't happy today because we are not reaching our potential. The same as we weren't under Swales. The same as we weren't under Frank Clarke. It's exactly the same today as it was 20 years ago, it just now our potential is so much greater than it was then.
Absolutely hit the nail on the head with that post.You clearly mean what you say and are passionate about it mate, but I disagree with near enough everything you've just written.
"A collective ability to see the good in every and any situation" that's certainly not my experience of being a City fan for 30 odd years. My dad started taking me when I was 5, his dad took him, my whole mums side of the family are dyed in the wool blues, half my mates are.
The collective mindset that runs through most of them is that if something will go wrong, it will. Typical City. Cups for cock-ups. Not a jolly, positive, optimistic attitude that everything will be alright.
In fact, the gallows humour, the collective mentally that something will inevitably go wrong is what the club was famous for, for over 30 years. I don't know where this cheerful optimism that you have experienced has come from.
When Swales was selling all our good youth players, bringing in journeymen, not investing in the club, running it in to the ground, the mood wasn't of cheerful optimism. It was a pent up frustrated anger that we wanted better. The resilience of the fans and determination for change, for wanting better was reflected in the Swales Out protests that resulted in the Chairman stepping down.
Going down to the third division with the insipid Alan Ball, Frank Clarke, Phil Neal at the reigns, there was no cheerful collective optimism. There was a widespread anger that we were grossly underachieving, that we wanted better. That the club deserved better.
It's the same over the last 2 years with Pellegrini. People are not happy. Fans don't want us to not even muster a shot on goal in the biggest game of the season while the manager sits on his hands. They don't want the best squad in the league and finish 5th. They don't want 442 against Barcelona or Bayern Munich. They want to compete, to do our best, to reach our potential.
There is widespread discontent with how the manager and the team has performed. But it's absolutely nothing new. It's nothing to do with money.
The investment in the club means expectations are inevitably raised. The bar of what people will be happy with has raised, but that's obvious, surely? We have Aguero up front, not Dickov.
All City fans ever want is for the team and the club to do their best, to reach their potential. The fans aren't happy today because we are not reaching our potential. The same as we weren't under Swales. The same as we weren't under Frank Clarke. It's exactly the same today as it was 20 years ago, it just now our potential is so much greater than it was then.
I think I even fell asleep onceMakes me laugh that we keep getting the "attacking entertaining football" quote, personally I've been bored shitless for the last 2 seasons.
You clearly mean what you say and are passionate about it mate, but I disagree with near enough everything you've just written.
"A collective ability to see the good in every and any situation" that's certainly not my experience of being a City fan for 30 odd years. My dad started taking me when I was 5, his dad took him, my whole mums side of the family are dyed in the wool blues, half my mates are.
The collective mindset that runs through most of them is that if something will go wrong, it will. Typical City. Cups for cock-ups. Not a jolly, positive, optimistic attitude that everything will be alright.
In fact, the gallows humour, the collective mentally that something will inevitably go wrong is what the club was famous for, for over 30 years. I don't know where this cheerful optimism that you have experienced has come from.
When Swales was selling all our good youth players, bringing in journeymen, not investing in the club, running it in to the ground, the mood wasn't of cheerful optimism. It was a pent up frustrated anger that we wanted better. The resilience of the fans and determination for change, for wanting better was reflected in the Swales Out protests that resulted in the Chairman stepping down.
Going down to the third division with the insipid Alan Ball, Frank Clarke, Phil Neal at the reigns, there was no cheerful collective optimism. There was a widespread anger that we were grossly underachieving, that we wanted better. That the club deserved better.
It's the same over the last 2 years with Pellegrini. People are not happy. Fans don't want us to not even muster a shot on goal in the biggest game of the season while the manager sits on his hands. They don't want the best squad in the league and finish 5th. They don't want 442 against Barcelona or Bayern Munich. They want to compete, to do our best, to reach our potential.
There is widespread discontent with how the manager and the team has performed. But it's absolutely nothing new. It's nothing to do with money.
The investment in the club means expectations are inevitably raised. The bar of what people will be happy with has raised, but that's obvious, surely? We have Aguero up front, not Dickov.
All City fans ever want is for the team and the club to do their best, to reach their potential. The fans aren't happy today because we are not reaching our potential. The same as we weren't under Swales. The same as we weren't under Frank Clarke. It's exactly the same today as it was 20 years ago, it just now our potential is so much greater than it was then.
You clearly mean what you say and are passionate about it mate, but I disagree with near enough everything you've just written.
"A collective ability to see the good in every and any situation" that's certainly not my experience of being a City fan for 30 odd years. My dad started taking me when I was 5, his dad took him, my whole mums side of the family are dyed in the wool blues, half my mates are.
The collective mindset that runs through most of them is that if something will go wrong, it will. Typical City. Cups for cock-ups. Not a jolly, positive, optimistic attitude that everything will be alright.
In fact, the gallows humour, the collective mentally that something will inevitably go wrong is what the club was famous for, for over 30 years. I don't know where this cheerful optimism that you have experienced has come from.
When Swales was selling all our good youth players, bringing in journeymen, not investing in the club, running it in to the ground, the mood wasn't of cheerful optimism. It was a pent up frustrated anger that we wanted better. The resilience of the fans and determination for change, for wanting better was reflected in the Swales Out protests that resulted in the Chairman stepping down.
Going down to the third division with the insipid Alan Ball, Frank Clarke, Phil Neal at the reigns, there was no cheerful collective optimism. There was a widespread anger that we were grossly underachieving, that we wanted better. That the club deserved better.
It's the same over the last 2 years with Pellegrini. People are not happy. Fans don't want us to not even muster a shot on goal in the biggest game of the season while the manager sits on his hands. They don't want the best squad in the league and finish 5th. They don't want 442 against Barcelona or Bayern Munich. They want to compete, to do our best, to reach our potential.
There is widespread discontent with how the manager and the team has performed. But it's absolutely nothing new. It's nothing to do with money.
The investment in the club means expectations are inevitably raised. The bar of what people will be happy with has raised, but that's obvious, surely? We have Aguero up front, not Dickov.
All City fans ever want is for the team and the club to do their best, to reach their potential. The fans aren't happy today because we are not reaching our potential. The same as we weren't under Swales. The same as we weren't under Frank Clarke. It's exactly the same today as it was 20 years ago, it just now our potential is so much greater than it was then.