city51 said:It does not help either when they let an adult buy one for there kid even though they dont have enough points taken up a seat for another adult who would of had enough points
city51 said:It does not help either when they let an adult buy one for there kid even though they dont have enough points taken up a seat for another adult who would of had enough points
-- Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:26 pm --
city51 said:It does not help either when they let an adult buy one for there kid even though they dont have enough points taken up a seat for another adult who would of had enough points
There will be a few kids there just wait and see
Same here, I can't believe it is being called speculation. It simply isn't, it is real. I know as I have received tickets (with no loyalty points added to my purchase history) that I had not qualified for.RACHACE said:Cleavers, I know that you weren't having a go at me. The branches that I have been involved in have always looked after their own. They also rarely offer travel only meaning that all tickets are obtained through the branch. I have even been turned away as I have obtained my ticket myself but the game then changed to a different date, meaning my train ticket wasn't valid. I asked if I could use the coach and was told no as coach only wasn't something they did.
I have seen wives, girlfriends, family members, fans of european clubs and long lost best mates obtain tickets for some of the biggest games of the season. All because they are in the inner circle of an OSC.
It happens and that's a fact, not specualtion.
I'm not saying that the one you're involved with does it, but the ones I have been involved with do it all the time.
Missed the point big time!Kaini Industries said:sunjihai17 said:what a load of shite. hate to say it but turning into exactly what we have always hated united for
Yes, we hate United because they sell out at West Brom.
cleavers said:That doesn't mean they are all going through their branch getting tickets.RACHACE said:What evidence would you want?
There will be 3 coaches leaving for West Brom, approx 150 people so 150 tickets with over 6000 loyalty points on their cards.
My point anyway was not having a go at you, it was just pointing out that people should believe the facts rather than speculation.
There are a couple of posts in here that confirm branches are actually getting less tickets, (last year we asked for and got 16 for WBA), but I can only speak for the branch I'm a member of, and we've got less than we've asked for several times this season, when in the past we have almost always got what we asked for.
-- Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:33 pm --
Actually I said less than 15, yes we got 4, and the rest of us have ordered theirs through their own steam. The reason we ask for them from the SC is that we travel, and like to sit together, this no crime.CHT said:Your Branch asked for 15 but only an estimated 10 may have the points it sold out on ....you were given 4 you say ...........The 10 could apply under their own steam add them to the 4 you got and suddenly youve got 14 when only 10 are eligible .....Hows that fair ?
Manchester City have a supporters club with branches all over the world, and we pay to be members of it, and being able to get tickets from the club is one of the few benefits left, a benefit that itself seems to be diminishing, and once again people on here are claiming that its the supporters clubs fault that tickets have sold out before some have got tickets, when the actual reason is far simpler.
Anyway I'm not posting in this thread again as its pointless, because those who didn't get a ticket just want to blame someone, despite not having the required number of points in the first place, luckily I and my lad have tickets because we both have the required number of points.
I think that's exactly what it is. Out of 2750 tickets offered to us at Old Trafford (even though it's supposed to be 5% which would be 3800, the Rag cheeky Rag cunts!) how many random people you'd never seen ever before were there? When the camera panned over to the City fans there were people in the City end we'd never seen before not even smiling let alone going mental! They are not fans with 9000+ points that's for sure! Everyone in the pub kept saying "who the fuck's that?" "look there's another!" "who the fuck are they?"SWP's back said:I really don't think it's anything to do with an increase in corporates.
I can confirm this happens. I was with a Supporters Club for three years. I went to 17 away games and didn't receive a single Loyalty Point for any of those 17 games!SWP's back said:Same here, I can't believe it is being called speculation. It simply isn't, it is real. I know as I have received tickets (with no loyalty points added to my purchase history) that I had not qualified for.RACHACE said:Cleavers, I know that you weren't having a go at me. The branches that I have been involved in have always looked after their own. They also rarely offer travel only meaning that all tickets are obtained through the branch. I have even been turned away as I have obtained my ticket myself but the game then changed to a different date, meaning my train ticket wasn't valid. I asked if I could use the coach and was told no as coach only wasn't something they did.
I have seen wives, girlfriends, family members, fans of european clubs and long lost best mates obtain tickets for some of the biggest games of the season. All because they are in the inner circle of an OSC.
It happens and that's a fact, not specualtion.
I'm not saying that the one you're involved with does it, but the ones I have been involved with do it all the time.
Rammy Blue said:I have got over 8000 points, applied via supporters club, got a ticket.
I've now sold that for a ton and applied direct to club and got my own ticket for which I got the points.
Hope that answers a few questions.
Plus I've got a mate who is corporate who sorted me with an extra 2 tickets for my pals, job's a good un.
CHT said:Lay off the club you ungrateful cunts ...............
You win stupid post of the year .
salfordblues said:city51 said:It does not help either when they let an adult buy one for there kid even though they dont have enough points taken up a seat for another adult who would of had enough points
-- Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:26 pm --
city51 said:It does not help either when they let an adult buy one for there kid even though they dont have enough points taken up a seat for another adult who would of had enough points
There will be a few kids there just wait and see
What?
As far as I'm aware if you buy tickets through club you need the corresponding qualifying supporters numbers
Going to this and can't wait, only do a few aways a year but I had enough points. Apologies to fans that go to more aways and couldn't get a ticket but I did go to QPR, which wasn't a sellout, and had to buy 2 sets of tickets because I lost the first lot. So after paying an extra £160 for that one I feel I've earned a good Boxing Day outStretford Born Blue said:Bollox, knew I should have got it this morning, will have to go to a soddin family Christmas get together now....!!!!!!
Bloddy hell mate I bet you are glad you made it to QPR and wasn't one of those that got stuck because of no trains into Euston.Gingers Dad said:Going to this and can't wait, only do a few aways a year but I had enough points. Apologies to fans that go to more aways and couldn't get a ticket but I did go to QPR, which wasn't a sellout, and had to buy 2 sets of tickets because I lost the first lot. So after paying an extra £160 for that one I feel I've earned a good Boxing Day outStretford Born Blue said:Bollox, knew I should have got it this morning, will have to go to a soddin family Christmas get together now....!!!!!!
city51 said:salfordblues said:city51 said:It does not help either when they let an adult buy one for there kid even though they dont have enough points taken up a seat for another adult who would of had enough points
-- Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:26 pm --
There will be a few kids there just wait and see
What?
As far as I'm aware if you buy tickets through club you need the corresponding qualifying supporters numbers
You are not very aware then because this is whats going on FACT
Our train stopped at Nuneaton had to get a train to Leicester then to St Pancras. Only got there 10 mins after kick off. no tickets but thought fuck it we're here now and bought 4 more. Couldn't really afford it.robsta said:Bloddy hell mate I bet you are glad you made it to QPR and wasn't one of those that got stuck because of no trains into Euston.Gingers Dad said:Going to this and can't wait, only do a few aways a year but I had enough points. Apologies to fans that go to more aways and couldn't get a ticket but I did go to QPR, which wasn't a sellout, and had to buy 2 sets of tickets because I lost the first lot. So after paying an extra £160 for that one I feel I've earned a good Boxing Day outStretford Born Blue said:Bollox, knew I should have got it this morning, will have to go to a soddin family Christmas get together now....!!!!!!
M24-CRC said:the reason you dont want to post again in this thread is because you know what CHT has said is true.
What CHT is saying/meant is that if there are 10 members of a branch that have the required points and the branch applies for and receives the 10 tickets (or less as in your case) then that is fine, as long as the points go against those 10 members (or less) and they then are not allowed to purchase another ticket separate. i.e their card is marked on citys computer system as being used/ticket bought.
However, the consensus amongst fans is that the supporters club branch, once tickets ordered/received, are providing supporter numbers of fans without the required points leaving the 10 (or less) other fans with the points able to purchase tickets themselves.
i.e. supporters who are members of branches who wouldn't have been able to purchase a ticket end up getting one, leaving non supporter branch fans with more points disappointed.
Another point, when you apply for tickets, how do you know how many of your members will have the required amount of points? Do the club say what they think it is going to sell out at or do they say what the minimum points total is. For example, for the West Brom game, did the club say to you that for the number of tickets you apply for you must have members with a minimum of 6500 points??
I know you said you wouldn't but please post a reply to confirm or deny the above (or any other supporters branch member who knows how the system works can respond).
So eight people with below 6000 points could get the tickets and be credited with the points whilst there is still time for those with higher points to get their tickets through the ticket officeRegular Joe said:M24-CRC said:the reason you dont want to post again in this thread is because you know what CHT has said is true.
What CHT is saying/meant is that if there are 10 members of a branch that have the required points and the branch applies for and receives the 10 tickets (or less as in your case) then that is fine, as long as the points go against those 10 members (or less) and they then are not allowed to purchase another ticket separate. i.e their card is marked on citys computer system as being used/ticket bought.
However, the consensus amongst fans is that the supporters club branch, once tickets ordered/received, are providing supporter numbers of fans without the required points leaving the 10 (or less) other fans with the points able to purchase tickets themselves.
i.e. supporters who are members of branches who wouldn't have been able to purchase a ticket end up getting one, leaving non supporter branch fans with more points disappointed.
Another point, when you apply for tickets, how do you know how many of your members will have the required amount of points? Do the club say what they think it is going to sell out at or do they say what the minimum points total is. For example, for the West Brom game, did the club say to you that for the number of tickets you apply for you must have members with a minimum of 6500 points??
I know you said you wouldn't but please post a reply to confirm or deny the above (or any other supporters branch member who knows how the system works can respond).
I'll explain how the system works in my branch.
The club give us a deadline to have requests in. We ask all our members who wants to go to submit a request to the branch shortly before the club's deadline . (For WBA I think we had 30 applications). We put in a request for the tickets to the club with names, OSC membership numbers, and MCFC supporter numbers.
Most games we get what we ask for and every one of those people on the list get their points added to their cards.
For the high demand games we get told we have a reduced allocation. For West Brom we were told we can only have 8 tickets. It's irrelevant how many people on our list had over 6000 points. Remember this is all decided before the tickets have even gone on public sale so the required points level is not known.
We then have a short space of time to resubmit a list of the 8 members who will get the tickets. Each one of those 8 people get the loyalty points on their own card. No-one in our branch misses out on points because we used someone else's card. Within our branch this is decided by our own system of branch loyalty points which is very transparent and doesn't require membership of an 'inner circle', but does require you to support the branch by travelling with us to games, attending meetings and helping out at charity functions.
How the OSC decide how many each branch get is a mystery to me but I think it's mainly based on how many tickets your branch requests for the lower demand games.