SWP's back said:I really don't think it's anything to do with an increase in corporates.
aye i was, i swear that away end holds more than 2,600mancityvstoke said:we could have sold 10k for this day out on boxing day this year.
2.600 wasn't ever going to be enough.
Mind you when I went last year in the Carling Cup (night game and we lost) there were empty seats.
Prestwich_Blue said:No because they put getting a few quid more for a few hundred tickets ahead of their loyal fans who have watched us for years and desperately want to watch them now have bought tickets when some day-tripper or corporate johnny wasn't in the slightest bit interested.Kaini Industries said:sunjihai17 said:what a load of shite. hate to say it but turning into exactly what we have always hated united for
Yes, we hate United because they sell out at West Brom.
lancs blue said:RACHACE said:Boxing Day fixtures have always been popular? That maybe true but not this popular, sold out before 6000 points (I have 5880).
There is alot going on imo, the supporters who have say 6500-8000 points are buying more tickets so that they keep up and the supporters clubs are getting more tickets to supplement the rise in new members. They are doing this by using the tickets of members that have lots of loyalty points and adding that to the amount that they get by applying.
Either way the ticket distribution is being manipulated and until something gets done to ensure that those that have purchased a ticket actually attend the game, then it will remain the same.
I know for a fact that should I have decided to want to go to the game with an OSC, I would have got a ticket without doubt. How can this be if it is all fair and by the book?
There are plenty of blues that go with an OSC that have plenty of loyalty points, but there are also plenty that do not have the required amount but will get a ticket.
There needs to be more transparency for the normal independant travelling fans with regards where the tickets are going.
Supporters clubs are definitely getting fewer tickets allocated this season, as I posted earlier our branch applied for 18 tickets for West Brom and got 6. Last season they would have got what they asked for more or less. If you genuinely believe the second bit I highlighted to be true, I'd like to know which branch you had in mind!
There will be a hell of a lot of city fans way above 6000 points,like you said a lot had a massive bump up this year..Manchester la la la la said:Agree with the previous postings that more people have higher points that realised
Platinum and the cup schemes have just staggered this.
Using me for example, I have had a season ticket for 12 seasons, used to go to loads of aways a couple of years back but stopped doing as many for a few seasons (personal reasons, finance and due to living in Hull for 3 years) - but still managed about 3/4 aways a season
Started going to aways regularly again from March last season, ended the season on just over 4600 points on the old loyalty point scheme
Signed up for Platinum, all cup schemes in the pre-season, and have only missed 4 competitive games this season home and away on my season card (United away - didnt have the points, Villarreal away - although I went without a ticket and got one the night before, Napoli away and Chelsea away - wasnt paying 60 notes)
My points now stand at 6170, in less than half a season I have gained almost 1600 points, although it could be argued that I'm on a higher level because I have been almost everywhere with the blues this season. I'm sure there are loads out there who have gained at least 1100 points by just signing up to the cup schemes, going platinum etc.
And loads, who like me, have been drawn back to the away games due to the quality of football we play now who didnt attend many aways in previous seasons, for either financial reasons or due to the football.
I do think the system can be a bit unfair for people who only have 3k/4k points who will have to spend years catching up to the rest of us. But you cant just jump straight into the popular aways on lower points. I had to miss out when I first started going to aways because my points at the time were too low - but I gained over the course of three seasons by doing the unfancied, or hard to get to aways. (even harder nowdays I admit, but its better than having a ballot)
Just my two penneth. I always see hundreds of the same old faces everywhere we go and have done for years.
Similar post to mine mate..........that was the biggest waste of £50 to thousands of people, i couldnt get my head round some doing it..Kennyblueboy said:the gold and platinum cards was a master stroke by mcfc everybody i know went for platinum to get double points by paying a extra 50 quid if you have around 4000 you should get gold next season has away tickets seem to go by 6000+ you will never catch up people with high points will always get a ticket if they are going or not and sell it on this site
I'm not sure how much of this thread you have read, but there are a number of replies in it, pointing out that branches who have asked for even small numbers of tickets, have got about 1/3 of what they asked for. There is mention of 1 branch getting 90 tickets, which actually isn't factual, its speculation, and I very much doubt its anywhere near that, that poster offers no evidence.CHT said:Heres a novel idea ......................If you have the required loyalty points you get a ticket ...............END OF .............
No "Back Door" getting one via a Supporters Club as is clearly happening .
Being a member of Bredbury /Didsbury /Reddish or whichever branch shouldnt give you a better chance of a ticket ..........
Anybody who doesnt think this is happening is in it for self interest or is living in cloud cuckoo land .
cleavers said:I'm not sure how much of this thread you have read, but there are a number of replies in it, pointing out that branches who have asked for even small numbers of tickets, have got about 1/3 of what they asked for. There is mention of 1 branch getting 90 tickets, which actually isn't factual, its speculation, and I very much doubt its anywhere near that, that poster offers no evidence.CHT said:Heres a novel idea ......................If you have the required loyalty points you get a ticket ...............END OF .............
No "Back Door" getting one via a Supporters Club as is clearly happening .
Being a member of Bredbury /Didsbury /Reddish or whichever branch shouldnt give you a better chance of a ticket ..........
Anybody who doesnt think this is happening is in it for self interest or is living in cloud cuckoo land .
I know for FACT that the one I'm a member of, asked for less than 15 tickets (and we probably have 10 members with the points it sold out at or more), and we got just 4.
Its boxing day, hardly anyone is working, they've been stuck with family all day the previous day, its little wonder that people want to escape to the football.
I also suspect that the claims that its down to increased corporate tickets are also rubbish for this game, because 1. its not high profile (we're not playing one of the not so big sky 4), and 2. not many companies will be wanting to entertain clients/employees on a cold wet boxing day.
The reasons its sold out are simple, we got a smallish allocation (they only need to give us 10% of capacity), there are a lot more people available to go because its a holiday, its close by, and we are no much more interesting to watch.
cleavers said:I'm not sure how much of this thread you have read, but there are a number of replies in it, pointing out that branches who have asked for even small numbers of tickets, have got about 1/3 of what they asked for. There is mention of 1 branch getting 90 tickets, which actually isn't factual, its speculation, and I very much doubt its anywhere near that, that poster offers no evidence.CHT said:Heres a novel idea ......................If you have the required loyalty points you get a ticket ...............END OF .............
No "Back Door" getting one via a Supporters Club as is clearly happening .
Being a member of Bredbury /Didsbury /Reddish or whichever branch shouldnt give you a better chance of a ticket ..........
Anybody who doesnt think this is happening is in it for self interest or is living in cloud cuckoo land .
I know for FACT that the one I'm a member of, asked for less than 15 tickets (and we probably have 10 members with the points it sold out at or more), and we got just 4.
Its boxing day, hardly anyone is working, they've been stuck with family all day the previous day, its little wonder that people want to escape to the football.
I also suspect that the claims that its down to increased corporate tickets are also rubbish for this game, because 1. its not high profile (we're not playing one of the not so big sky 4), and 2. not many companies will be wanting to entertain clients/employees on a cold wet boxing day.
The reasons its sold out are simple, we got a smallish allocation (they only need to give us 10% of capacity), there are a lot more people available to go because its a holiday, its close by, and we are no much more interesting to watch.
cleavers said:I'm not sure how much of this thread you have read, but there are a number of replies in it, pointing out that branches who have asked for even small numbers of tickets, have got about 1/3 of what they asked for. There is mention of 1 branch getting 90 tickets, which actually isn't factual, its speculation, and I very much doubt its anywhere near that, that poster offers no evidence. I know for FACT that the one I'm a member of, asked for less than 15 tickets (and we probably have 10 members with the points it sold out at or more), and we got just 4.CHT said:Heres a novel idea ......................If you have the required loyalty points you get a ticket ...............END OF .............
No "Back Door" getting one via a Supporters Club as is clearly happening .
Being a member of Bredbury /Didsbury /Reddish or whichever branch shouldnt give you a better chance of a ticket ..........
Anybody who doesnt think this is happening is in it for self interest or is living in cloud cuckoo land .
Its boxing day, hardly anyone is working, they've been stuck with family all day the previous day, its little wonder that people want to escape to the football.
I also suspect that the claims that its down to increased corporate tickets are also rubbish for this game, because 1. its not high profile (we're not playing one of the not so big sky 4), and 2. not many companies will be wanting to entertain clients/employees on a cold wet boxing day.
The reasons its sold out are simple, we got a smallish allocation (they only need to give us 10% of capacity), there are a lot more people available to go because its a holiday, its close by, and we are no much more interesting to watch.
That doesn't mean they are all going through their branch getting tickets.RACHACE said:What evidence would you want?
There will be 3 coaches leaving for West Brom, approx 150 people so 150 tickets with over 6000 loyalty points on their cards.
Actually I said less than 15, yes we got 4, and the rest of us have ordered theirs through their own steam. The reason we ask for them from the SC is that we travel, and like to sit together, this no crime.CHT said:Your Branch asked for 15 but only an estimated 10 may have the points it sold out on ....you were given 4 you say ...........The 10 could apply under their own steam add them to the 4 you got and suddenly youve got 14 when only 10 are eligible .....Hows that fair ?
cleavers said:That doesn't mean they are all going through their branch getting tickets.RACHACE said:What evidence would you want?
There will be 3 coaches leaving for West Brom, approx 150 people so 150 tickets with over 6000 loyalty points on their cards.
My point anyway was not having a go at you, it was just pointing out that people should believe the facts rather than speculation.
There are a couple of posts in here that confirm branches are actually getting less tickets, (last year we asked for and got 16 for WBA), but I can only speak for the branch I'm a member of, and we've got less than we've asked for several times this season, when in the past we have almost always got what we asked for.
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Actually I said less than 15, yes we got 4, and the rest of us have ordered theirs through their own steam. The reason we ask for them from the SC is that we travel, and like to sit together, this no crime.CHT said:Your Branch asked for 15 but only an estimated 10 may have the points it sold out on ....you were given 4 you say ...........The 10 could apply under their own steam add them to the 4 you got and suddenly youve got 14 when only 10 are eligible .....Hows that fair ?
Manchester City have a supporters club with branches all over the world, and we pay to be members of it, and being able to get tickets from the club is one of the few benefits left, a benefit that itself seems to be diminishing, and once again people on here are claiming that its the supporters clubs fault that tickets have sold out before some have got tickets, when the actual reason is far simpler.
Anyway I'm not posting in this thread again as its pointless, because those who didn't get a ticket just want to blame someone, despite not having the required number of points in the first place, luckily I and my lad have tickets because we both have the required number of points.
Yep. I think it stinks and haven't done so this year as I've managed to get the tickets I wanted but did use it for Blackpool away and a couple of others last season. But its always gone on, its just more noticeable recently as the aways are selling out unlike in past seasons.Prestwich_Blue said:Right. So the club allocate tickets to individuals who have enough points but the individual may not be the one who actually applied for the ticket or want to use it. But they will presumably get the loyalty points for that ticket.
But does that stop that individual for applying for a ticket on their own behalf and would they get turned away if they went to the ticket office and tried to buy a ticket?