What do we actually want?

Danamy said:
I can see you don't do sarcasm, i'll put a winky face at the end next time ;-)
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Fair enough sorry.

I've seen some proper shit so I can compare, but imo there were some depressing similarities in watching City on Saturday, to some of the dreadful days of the past. Similar disorganisation & individual carelessness to that which has blighted us at the other end of the table. Even when we lose, I think we should be better than that.
 
g180aj said:
The first team are too comfortable in there place in the team, play the youth to send a message.
I'd rather see the youth fail with a good effort than watch the first team lose cos they can't be arsed.
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I'm with you on this one. I'd like to see the players (other than Zab) getting pissed off or at least showing some emotion at the prospect of us going from a potential 1st to 4th. I'd like to see Yaya shouting or leading as a captain on the half way line when we traipse back after succumbing to yet another soft goal from a set piece.

I do not have a problem with us losing if we've played hard. Its the lack luster performances with no heart that are getting to me. We've had so many this season I didn't even leave the ground with the sick feeling I usually have. After Sunderland I expected it. The table is actually now reflecting around about where we deserve to be.
 
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mardon85 said:
I'm with you on this one. I'd like to see the players (other than Zab) getting pissed off or at least showing some emotion at the prospect of us going from a potential 1st to 4th. I'd like to see Yaya shouting or leading as a captain on the half way line when we traipse back after succumbing to yet another soft goal from a set piece.

I do not have a problem with us loosing if we've played hard. Its the lack luster performances with no heart that are getting to me. We've had so many this season I didn't even leave the ground with the sick feeling I usually have. After Sunderland I expected it. The table is actually now reflecting around about where we deserve to be.
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It's 1 thing to get beat by a better team on the day but another to get beat by a better team without even a fight.
If it wasn't for Aguero's recent form we would be in 7/8th place.
What's the point in being able to say he has given for argument sake 8 players first team debuts when 6 are 5 minutes at the end of games, grow some balls and give the lads a chance to dig is out of the hole both Manuel and the first team are putting us into at present.
The biggest mistakes of the season for me are alowing Denayer, lopes and Evans to leave and not using Roberts instead of Martin and Fernando (although I don't blame him as much for the hole as some others) staying with the squad.
 
A team that plays with heart, passion and an intensity that commands our youth, new recruits etc to raise their game time after time and increase competition for places. A squad that recognises its weaknesses but plays to its strengths to cover any cracks and play as a team together. A team that recognises they are lucky enough to wear the shirt that we all dream of, and one that knows they earn so much money - and we don't. One that appreciates their lucky and privileged positions. I don't want 100% of ability all the time, I want the players as a team to scrap, fight tooth and claw, play with 100% and do their best. I want the manager and backroom team equally as hearty. I want to see passion. I want to see fire in the belly and ice in the head. I want "Typical City" to go for good.
 
Summerbuzz said:
A team.

Some intelligence, some grit, some skill, some excitement, some flair. Bits of bravery, dogged perseverance, creativity, inspiration. With team work and professionalism, and a balanced approach, to wrap it all up into a cohesive whole.

In other words;

'A team'.
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Manuel loves it when a plan comes together.
 
Bombo said:
Lose a game and all the Johnny come lately's come out of the woodwork. I started supporting city as a kid I remember from about 1975 when I was 7 years old. Tuert, Barnes, Doyle, Watson and Royle were my heroes around that time under Tony Book. We were good as well.
Following on from about 1981 we were shit for 30 years so what?
I have loved it all.
I can't stand all the posters on here match day thread is the worst for it who slate the manager and players as soon as we have a bad result.
We are fourth int the league with plenty of games left, we won it from 8 points behind with a lot less games left remember.
We are in champions league, FA Cup and the league cup final. Fuck me its awful!
Get a grip you glory hunting wankers. ya ya is shit, really? We didn't do much after he went off in fact we got worse!
Silva is finished? Really?
Leicester were brilliant but we still created a lot and could have scored a few. It was a great game to watch I enjoyed it aside from the result. So pathetic lots of people left when they got the third goal I hate you all! The glory hunters go and follow Utd. To be fair to a mate of mine who's a Utd fan he stopped going at the peak of their success because he hated the moaning going on around him when he was in the ground. He hated the glory hunters and he went through all their barren years.
We are like that now people calling Pellegrini a old useless ****! How disrespectful to a guy that has won a cup and the league.
How I wish these Johnny come lateley's would dissapear. I love where my club is going I don't love who is on the same journey.
We sing we lost last week and we lost today for a reason! A large majority could do with enlightening.
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Excellent post
 
The goal posts have changed, so your harking back to the 90's and the gallows humour then, as enjoyable as it was, is very different now. We are playing at the high stakes table not the shove halfpenny board. It really isn't about being spoilt. We expect what the club expects from it's investment. Different times, different expectations and pressures.
 
A bit of endeavour but also a lot of learning on our own behalf because a hell of a lot of us especially the older blues as myself have not yet got used to supporting a successful club
 
GaudinoMotors said:
The goal posts have changed, so your harking back to the 90's and the gallows humour then, as enjoyable as it was, is very different now. We are playing at the high stakes table not the shove halfpenny board. It really isn't about being spoilt. We expect what the club expects from it's investment. Different times, different expectations and pressures.
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Exactly mate. The state of some people who still accuse people of being 'glory hunters' because they are disappointed after a defeat. It's embarrassing.

Look at the amount of money we have spent assembling this squad, and the players we have. We are perfectly entitled to be disappointed when we underperform as much as we have been, and when we turn up to key games in that manner. The way Leicester played, with desire, hunger, passion and teamwork should embarrass our group of players, who are pretty much to a man better. Or the majority, anyway. That is why people are pissed off after a win, and to claim it is being a glory hunter is just pathetic, grow up.

My first ever City game was the 2-2 against Liverpool when we went down, so it's not like I haven't seen the bad times. We are, in effect, a different team now, though. Completely different ambitions. I doubt our owners will being saying after Saturday 'no bother, we used to be shit'.
 
Why is it a persistent and comparative argument about the levels of shitness of City teams? Unless there are 8 year olds posting, we've all experienced some incredibly shit players, games, managers etc and are incredibly spoilt by the current squad, standard of player and relative success. Yet it's the high standard of the players playing for us that makes it all the more irritating and frustrating when they play badly, without any clear system and are beaten by the same tactics.

I wouldn't mind nearly as much when we lost if the players were shite, or conversely if they were great, fought hard and were beaten by a better team. We have a brilliantly skilful squad of players who have shown, in glimpses, the fight and depths of reserve that teams like Leicester have shown consistently, and that consistency is what I want from this team.
 
g180aj said:
The first team are too comfortable in there place in the team, play the youth to send a message.
I'd rather see the youth fail with a good effort than watch the first team lose cos they can't be arsed.
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That's correct. What we'd need is a bold, courageous manager for that to happen. We don't have that. A good one, with a good track record, perhaps the best we could get in the interim but palpably going through the motions, I've said it before, thank goodness Txixi has persuaded Guardiola to come for a promising new adventure.
 
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