Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[blueinsa]

And so he should be.. im an inner but Im also aware that he needs to get it right,especially in Europe..

Next season is crunch time for Bob.

If we fail to get out of the group again next season in Europe i think even the staunch "inners" will agree with you aswell as the owners

The League should be the target at the moment, partly because the Premiership clubs have fallen way behind Dortmund and Bayern. And Barca and Real Madrid are still ahead too. We need some luck in the draw - get the same group and I'd expect 3rd.

The business model going forward demands that qualification form the group stages is a minimum.

Failure again and he is toast and rightly so.

 

[@BluePhil8]

And so he should be.. im an inner but Im also aware that he needs to get it right,especially in Europe..

Next season is crunch time for Bob.

If we fail to get out of the group again next season in Europe i think even the staunch "inners" will agree with you aswell as the owners

The League should be the target at the moment, partly because the Premiership clubs have fallen way behind Dortmund and Bayern. And Barca and Real Madrid are still ahead too. We need some luck in the draw - get the same group and I'd expect 3rd.

Luck? There is no such thing. We keep on getting the "group of death" because we don't win games, meaning we are always seeded in pot 4/3. Nothing will change until we start winning games against top teams.

 

[Danamy]

And so he should be.. im an inner but Im also aware that he needs to get it right,especially in Europe..

Next season is crunch time for Bob.

If we fail to get out of the group again next season in Europe i think even the staunch "inners" will agree with you aswell as the owners

The League should be the target at the moment, partly because the Premiership clubs have fallen way behind Dortmund and Bayern. And Barca and Real Madrid are still ahead too. We need some luck in the draw - get the same group and I'd expect 3rd.

Do you think the owners will be happy to keep giving him the resources just so we're a Champs League group team?

 

[Ragnarok]

And so he should be.. im an inner but Im also aware that he needs to get it right,especially in Europe..

Next season is crunch time for Bob.

If we fail to get out of the group again next season in Europe i think even the staunch "inners" will agree with you aswell as the owners

The only line between the inners and the outers is that Bob should get 1 more season.. no more no less.

Well if he gets the domestic treble and still fails at the group stages, i might be inclined to give him one more season ;)

 

[Neville Kneville]

Last season

34 24 5 5 85 27 58 77

This season

34 21 8 5 61 31 30 71

85 goals to 61. This is after the first 34 League games of each season.

2010/2011 season. Utd went on to win the League with 80 points.

You would be a mug to blame Mancini for that - the explanation is so obvious I don't even have to say it.

And the second matter is that winning a League Title is relative. If your opponent buys the top goalscorer then they are going to improve too, and that in itself piles on pressure and has the potential to take points from you in head to head games - which it did.

How about the fact that (unbeknown to us) we started the season with Mancini & Balotelli in dispute about his fine from last season ?

The fact that Balotelli subsequently scored ONE PL goal & had Mancini on his case pretty much every time he set foot on the field (in the past he used to be supportive in the same circumstances) then attacking him on the training ground, then selling him to AC Milan on the cheap ?

So we had 3 strikers rather than 4.

Nothing is ever Mancini's fault.

Did I say that? No. Unlike a privileged few I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but I am able to take an objective view of where we are now and where we were, and what has changed. And a FA Cup Final and runners-up spot does not equal Sack Mancini. As I pointed out, in the 2010-11 season our current points total would have put us on target for the League title again.

I am sure Mancini has made mistakes. For example I am not impressed with the way Dzeko and Balotelli both lost their motivation under Mancini, and have said that repeatedly all week since spurs, but that doesn't equal Sack Mancini.

I am not in the sack Mancini camp, quite the opposite.

But I don't think there is any real excuse for his performance this season & I would like to think that he knows where he has gone wrong & can do something about it, rather than just looking for reasons why everything has actually not been that bad & thinking it wasn't his fault anyway.

The Premier League has been poor this season imo & only Utd have taken advantage of it. It is unlikely to be so poor next season, possibly ever again, & we have made a right arse of defending a title against one half decent team.

 

[Marvin]

If we fail to get out of the group again next season in Europe i think even the staunch "inners" will agree with you aswell as the owners

The League should be the target at the moment, partly because the Premiership clubs have fallen way behind Dortmund and Bayern. And Barca and Real Madrid are still ahead too. We need some luck in the draw - get the same group and I'd expect 3rd.

Luck? There is no such thing. We keep on getting the "group of death" because we don't win games, meaning we are always seeded in pot 4/3. Nothing will change until we start winning games against top teams.

Vicious circle. Keep drawing the top teams and we will keep getting beat

Seeding is OK but should be done on basis of the teams performance in their domestic leagues.

 

[Danamy]

And so he should be.. im an inner but Im also aware that he needs to get it right,especially in Europe..

Next season is crunch time for Bob.

If we fail to get out of the group again next season in Europe i think even the staunch "inners" will agree with you aswell as the owners

The only line between the inners and the outers is that Bob should get 1 more season.. no more no less.

You'll still have people believe if we don't get out of the group stages next season he should be given another £100 mill to have crack at it, you should know this by now?

 

[samharris]

If we fail to get out of the group again next season in Europe i think even the staunch "inners" will agree with you aswell as the owners

The only line between the inners and the outers is that Bob should get 1 more season.. no more no less.

Well if he gets the domestic treble and still fails at the group stages, i might be inclined to give him one more season ;)

Now that would set the cat amongst the pigeons...the Mancini thread would be global ;)

Id be inclined too..<br /><br />-- Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:34 am --<br /><br />

If we fail to get out of the group again next season in Europe i think even the staunch "inners" will agree with you aswell as the owners

The only line between the inners and the outers is that Bob should get 1 more season.. no more no less.

Well if he gets the domestic treble and still fails at the group stages, i might be inclined to give him one more season ;)

Now that would set the cat amongst the pigeons...the Mancini thread would be global ;)

Id be inclined too..

 

[Neville Kneville]

The League should be the target at the moment, partly because the Premiership clubs have fallen way behind Dortmund and Bayern. And Barca and Real Madrid are still ahead too. We need some luck in the draw - get the same group and I'd expect 3rd.

Luck? There is no such thing. We keep on getting the "group of death" because we don't win games, meaning we are always seeded in pot 4/3. Nothing will change until we start winning games against top teams.

Vicious circle. Keep drawing the top teams and we will keep getting beat

Seeding is OK but should be done on basis of the teams performance in their domestic leagues.

Real Madrid weren't that good & Ajax were very very beatable.

Chelsea brushed Napoli aside last season.

 

[OB1]

The only line between the inners and the outers is that Bob should get 1 more season.. no more no less.

Might not be the only difference but it is a key difference and more importantly a key question: should he get another year? The answer to that in part depends on how you view the risks involved. It's not, IMO, an easy decision, which is why I'm something like 5.5.on a 10 scale of how convinced I am he should go. However, the easy option is to let him stay and see how he does. We will get much greater clarity about Mancini if he gets another season and some of his transfer targets in the summer.