Wilfried Bony

[richards30]

How can we use the negredo sale in january when he wont officially be sold until the summer?

 

[paul-dkn]

Little doubt one of Dzeko and Jovetic at least will go but at least this time both will have decent currency.

No matter the status of the striker I hope gone are the days when a striker with at least one title to his name will be sold off for peanuts no matter the baggage.

Juventus must have been laughing when we sold Tevez for what we did.

Should have asked for and received at least twice what they paid for him.

We will end up getting Bony for between 25 mill and 30 mill with an add on.

25 mill for Negredo is fair enough.

According to Ian Cheesman, on last weeks Blue Tuesday, provided no players are sold, the FFP regs will come back to bite us on the arse again if we spend more than £17m in this current transfer window.

I know their are rumours about Nasty & Sinclair moving, but with all due respect, there's no way that both of their transfer fees combined will net us enough to complete the Bony deal so I guess it is certain to be a current first team squad member that departs.

of those rumoured to be on their way out I Cant see Dzeko or Jovetic leaving as we would be back to sqare one in terms of having only 3 front line strikers to pick from. (Besides, I suspect, any club enquiring about Steven would site his injury record and want him on the cheap)

If it were up to me I would much rather we offloaded Navas to raise the rest of the money, however, with his omission from the starting line up at Everton yesterday, a contract with City currently (not on offer?) unsigned and a bid from the candle dippers, supposedly, pending I suspect that Jimmy will be the player that's shipped out.

Sadly, somone who's true value to this club will only be fully realised (particularly by those at management & board level) once he's been allowed to go.

We wouldn't be after the likes of Bony and others if we knew it was going to impinge on our Chump League Squad and make up of home grown players for League and Chumps League next season.

To say the restrictions when it comes to ownership structures like PSG and City are bemusing at best is understating the obvious but nevertheless we have paid our penance this year and it will be full steam ahead in the summer.

Its one thing having the funds to make your squad stronger but its not a given that you will spend well and the new players will hit the premiership running or the manager will ensure he gets the best with what he has.

Yes will we let players go that have little chance of getting significant game time or want to leave the club for whatever reason.

Maybe Milner falls into that later category and we don't stand in the way of players who see their future outside City but we are now able to play hard ball with our valuation and so we should as in the past we haven't done so without those restrictions to the best of our ability.

In short we have been soft selling players for under value and buying in the main at over value.

Those days should be gone as Sinclair , Nasty and Milner should he want to go will find out.

Bony obviously wants to come to us , we want him and Swansea have consented to sell him so notwithstanding a back flip from either party he will come but we rate Negredo in the same bracket so there will be little between the sale price of each player.

City cant really play 'hard ball' with the valuation of milner seeing as hes out of contract in the summer. So if he is determined to go its either sell him for what we can in this window or he walks for nothing in the summer.

Any ideas on whats holding up the bony deal? His wage request??

 

[richards30]

Surely wages wont be a problem for agreement?!?!! What would he earn at swansea? £25,000-30,000 a week? Wasn't there talk he would take Nastasic wages when he goes at £75,000 a week?

 

[BlueDejong]

BBC Wales Sport ‏@BBCWalesSport 3m3 minutes ago
Swansea City have agreed a fee in the region of £30m for the sale of striker Wilfried Bony to Premier League champions Manchester City

Deal done

 

[Bentheblue]

It could be that we have to complete the sale of a player before we can buy, in order to stay within "fair play " rules.

 

[remember arthur mann]

How can we use the negredo sale in january when he wont officially be sold until the summer?

On the never never, like the rags 400 millon !

 

[MeatHunterrr]

It could be that we have to complete the sale of a player before we can buy, in order to stay within "fair play " rules.

No. We have accounted the £24m Negredo fee apparently this year, which means we have a budget of around £35m without any sales, as we had £12m to spend before Negredo sale is taking in to account.

We don't have to sell anyone if we sign Bony for under £35m.

 

[nmc]

How can we use the negredo sale in january when he wont officially be sold until the summer?

It's not really a loan if there's a binding agreement to buy - so I guess we have checked with UEFA that the fee - probably paid in installments anyway is attached to the original transaction date in September. It should certainly be shown as a credit in our accounts.

 

[Wrighty Wrexham]

It could be that we have to complete the sale of a player before we can buy, in order to stay within "fair play " rules.

No. We have accounted the £24m Negredo fee apparently this year, which means we have a budget of around £35m without any sales, as we had £12m to spend before Negredo sale is taking in to account.

We don't have to sell anyone if we sign Bony for under £35m.

Don't really understand how we can account for the £24m this year as I bet Valencia are accounting for it as an outgoing in their accounts in the summer!!

That's called bending the rules to the extreme and cant see how it would be allowed! Negredo has either been loaned or sold!!

 

[OB1]

How can we use the negredo sale in january when he wont officially be sold until the summer?

I posted this on another thread:

I don't know with certainty all the facts about the Negredo deal but it does appear that neither none of City, Valencia or Negredo can back out of making his move to Valencia permanent. If that is the case, then despite the fact that it is being referred to as a loan deal initially, it is in substance a permanent sale with extended credit terms. Therefore, City it would be right in accounting terms to allow City to reduce their net spend for this season by the amount that they are guaranteed to receive from Valencia. And, if they choose to, they can pay cash upfront to Swansea.

 

[MeatHunterrr]

It could be that we have to complete the sale of a player before we can buy, in order to stay within "fair play " rules.

No. We have accounted the £24m Negredo fee apparently this year, which means we have a budget of around £35m without any sales, as we had £12m to spend before Negredo sale is taking in to account.

We don't have to sell anyone if we sign Bony for under £35m.

Don't really understand how we can account for the £24m this year as I bet Valencia are accounting for it as an outgoing in their accounts in the summer!!

That's called bending the rules to the extreme and cant see how it would be allowed! Negredo has either been loaned or sold!!

I think we have checked this with UEFA, that we can account the £24m now. Otherwise signing Bony wouldn't be possible.

 

[waspish]

It could be that we have to complete the sale of a player before we can buy, in order to stay within "fair play " rules.

No. We have accounted the £24m Negredo fee apparently this year, which means we have a budget of around £35m without any sales, as we had £12m to spend before Negredo sale is taking in to account.

We don't have to sell anyone if we sign Bony for under £35m.

Don't really understand how we can account for the £24m this year as I bet Valencia are accounting for it as an outgoing in their accounts in the summer!!

That's called bending the rules to the extreme and cant see how it would be allowed! Negredo has either been loaned or sold!!

He's been sold he won't be coming back

 

[Wrighty Wrexham]

No. We have accounted the £24m Negredo fee apparently this year, which means we have a budget of around £35m without any sales, as we had £12m to spend before Negredo sale is taking in to account.

We don't have to sell anyone if we sign Bony for under £35m.

Don't really understand how we can account for the £24m this year as I bet Valencia are accounting for it as an outgoing in their accounts in the summer!!

That's called bending the rules to the extreme and cant see how it would be allowed! Negredo has either been loaned or sold!!

He's been sold he won't be coming back

Thought he had been loaned with an obligation to buy in the summer! That's not the same is it?

 

[mad4city]

I`m expecting someone to tell me I`m wrong and that he will be signing. ;)

Lies!
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The winds will blow over the ocean
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[waspish]

Don't really understand how we can account for the £24m this year as I bet Valencia are accounting for it as an outgoing in their accounts in the summer!!

That's called bending the rules to the extreme and cant see how it would be allowed! Negredo has either been loaned or sold!!

He's been sold he won't be coming back

Thought he had been loaned with an obligation to buy in the summer! That's not the same is it?

He's not coming back so in my mind he's sold and that what our books say

 

[City_Sean]

BBC are reporting that a fee in the region of 30 Million has been agreed.

 

[Marvin]

BBC are reporting that a fee in the region of 30 Million has been agreed.

Wilfried Bony: Swansea agree £30m deal with Man City
Swansea City have agreed a fee in the region of £30m to sell striker Wilfried Bony to Premier League champions Manchester City.

Swansea manager Garry Monk previously said it would take an "astronomical" fee to prise the Ivory Coast striker, 26, away from the Liberty Stadium.

He was the Premier League's top scorer in the calendar year of 2014 with 20 goals.

Bony joined Swansea for a club-record £12m from Vitesse Arnhem in 2013.

The fee breaks the Welsh club record sale of £15m that Liverpool paid Swansea for midfielder Joe Allen in August 2012.

More to follow.

 

[mad4city]

Don't really understand how we can account for the £24m this year as I bet Valencia are accounting for it as an outgoing in their accounts in the summer!!

That's called bending the rules to the extreme and cant see how it would be allowed! Negredo has either been loaned or sold!!

He's been sold he won't be coming back

Thought he had been loaned with an obligation to buy in the summer! That's not the same is it?

Of course it's the same.
If you take a car off the lot, at 9am, even though the paperwork won't be finalised until noon, you've just been loaned it with an obligation to buy. To the seller, how greatly does this differ from if you'd paid cash up front?

 

[Tueartsoverhead kick]

BBC are reporting that a fee in the region of 30 Million has been agreed.

Why don't they say a fee in the region of 25 Million instead they always round it up to the higher figure because its us ..... AGENDA !!

 

[mad4city]

BBC are reporting that a fee in the region of 30 Million has been agreed.

So, the world and it's uncle are stating £28m but Auntie Beeb is reporting differently? Quelle suprise...
Wonder if they reported Fellaini's £27m fee as "in the region of £30m"?