Will Liverpool title win (if) be considered fluke/One off?

[Blue Is the Opposite of Blue]

Re: Will Liverpool title win (if) be considered a fluke?

1. No extra matches in Europe

So what? Everton haven't had any extra European matches and they've not raced through to the title from outside the top 4. Admittedly, not being in European competition has benefited Liverpool somewhat, but they have an effective system which puts the fear into teams and gets results. To begrudge them their success this season based on something that happened last season is unfair on the terrific achievement this year has been for them.

Not playing in Europe means saving energy,less chance of injury,more time to prepare for a league match and more chance of playing best 11 in the league week in and week out......You have had those luxuries whole season,,,,,,,if we were been given those luxuries we would have won the league breaking the 100 points record.

2. Early domestic cup Elimination.

So I guess our title win was a fluke, was it? We were out of both major cup competitions by the end of January and made pretty good work of getting ourselves knocked out of the Europa League in order to be fresh for the title run-in. Stop trying to begrudge Liverpool their success because you're jealous.

So a fan of the team that won the Carling Cup is jealous of a fan of the team that were kicked out in the first round #scouselogic

3. Luck with Injuries.(Suarez never seems to get injured)

He was suspended for the first 6 games of this season if I remember rightly. They've also had Coutinho, Sturridge and Enrique out for long parts of this season. They've had to play a right-back at left-back pretty much since the opening day (Flanagan) so to say they've had "luck with injuries" is far from the truth and again a showing of your jealousy.

Compare Suarez with Aguero......Suarez has missed 6 matches whereas Aguero has hardly played in the league in whole 2014.Silva,,,Nasri,,,Kompany and Yaya Fernandinho all getting injured in the critical time of the season

4 .Media love in and bias.

I don't even have to answer this one. It's ridiculous. You've got to be making these up now, surely? Have you seen the way the press fawn over Mourinho and Chelsea? Have you? I guess not.

Well if u underestimate the role of media then my friend you are living in a fools paradise,,,,,We have had nearly no support from media,,,,more of disruptive stories and media trying to ban our player for Yaya moving his legs and Kompany for kicking a wall

5.Huge refereeing decisions going in their favour.

Well ourselves and Chelsea haven't received 13 penalties this season that also in critical position of matches...THat newcastle goal if u go by the letter of the law was indeed offside.....In the same match there was a bad tackle on Nasri that went unpunished and Nasri got injured for 2 months and hasnt recovered that sort of form since

6.More than fair share of Luck.

You create your own luck when you're good enough to do it. Liverpool spend so much time in and around the opposition's penalty area that eventually a trip or a stumble is going to benefit them.

You sound jealous and nothing more, mate. Sorry.

Well swear by the dearest thing u have and tell me honestly if Suarez didnt deserved to be sent off for his ridiculise dive last week....If Ref was indeed fair and sent him off we would had beaten you and the table would had been telling a different story

Er... I'm a City fan?

 

[TCIB]

Re: Will Liverpool title win (if) be considered a fluke?

Op notes circumstances that are favourable to Liverpool.
That is not what constitutes a fluke.

A fluke is attributed to a "one off" kind of deal, not a 38 match season.
If they win it they deserve it.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Re: Will Liverpool title win (if) be considered a fluke?

I'm bitter as fuck at the moment and have no problem admitting to it. I cannot shake the feeling of what happened at Anfield last week and knowing that a win would have practically given us the title, those decisions are astounding. Incidents and decisions might even themselves out (do they fuck, that's a load of gibberish usually spouted by teams that have gotten away with a few) but the importance of some decisions and some games far outweigh others. That none yellow card for Suarez last week is the difference between the 2014 Premier League champions being Liverpool and not Manchester City. I really don't care what anyone else feels about it or what they have to say, it's a feeling that will not go away and for that I'm not sure I can give Liverpool the credit they probably deserve.

 

[jimharri]

Re: Will Liverpool title win (if) be considered a fluke?

And while I genuinely have a soft spot for city, I have been amazed at the hatred and bitterness shown towards Liverpool I actually think its worse on here (for pure hatred) than redcafe, I am genuinely surprised.

Perhaps you should look at the reasons why. The constant self-pity and sense of entitlement really does wind up a lot of people, me included. Plus, the attitude of a section of your supporters last weekend left a lot to be desired. Booing City players throughout the whole 90 minutes, cheering when Yaya was being subbed due to injury and then bricking some of our supporters' coaches. All the more annoying when you look at how we marked that day (the floral tribute by the club, the full page ad in your match programme, the impeccably observed minute's silence) Not to mention the rank hypocrisy of you lot. Constantly whinging about ''oil money'' and ''money doesn't buy class'', while conveniently forgetting/overlooking the Moores family/Littlewoods Pools money ploughed into your club in the sixties/seventies. Then there's the constant references to the Hillsborough victims. I even saw a comment today by one of your fans on how fitting it was to hit the 96 goal mark this week, to go with the comments on what a fitting tribute it would be if you won the league in the 25th anniversary of the disaster.. For fuck's sake; let them rest in peace, rather than constantly referencing them. No one will forget them, we don't need constant reminders.

The booing of city players (not the booing of toure) anyone who did that is scum, but I was amazed you had a 23 page thread moaning about being booed, utd chelsea and everton aswell as european teams have had the same treatment for years, but in all that time I have never heard an away fan moan about it, god help you lot in Istanbul if you don't like a hostile atmosphere, and this was sitting next to your thread moaning about your own lack of atmosphere.

What the fuck has Istanbul got to do with it? The game was being played in England, and I was using the normal behaviour of English football fans as my yardstick. Of course you get a hostile reception overseas; you expect it in Turkey or Naples. I'm 51, and I don't think I can remember witnessing an away team being booed constantly for the whole 90 minutes, not even the vermin. You asked why the hatred/dislike (you choose your term), I've explained it. When we played our part in your commemorations, we'd like to think we'd get some sort of, I don't know, acknowledgement or respect. Obviously not though.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Re: Will Liverpool title win (if) be considered a fluke?

Perhaps you should look at the reasons why. The constant self-pity and sense of entitlement really does wind up a lot of people, me included. Plus, the attitude of a section of your supporters last weekend left a lot to be desired. Booing City players throughout the whole 90 minutes, cheering when Yaya was being subbed due to injury and then bricking some of our supporters' coaches. All the more annoying when you look at how we marked that day (the floral tribute by the club, the full page ad in your match programme, the impeccably observed minute's silence) Not to mention the rank hypocrisy of you lot. Constantly whinging about ''oil money'' and ''money doesn't buy class'', while conveniently forgetting/overlooking the Moores family/Littlewoods Pools money ploughed into your club in the sixties/seventies. Then there's the constant references to the Hillsborough victims. I even saw a comment today by one of your fans on how fitting it was to hit the 96 goal mark this week, to go with the comments on what a fitting tribute it would be if you won the league in the 25th anniversary of the disaster.. For fuck's sake; let them rest in peace, rather than constantly referencing them. No one will forget them, we don't need constant reminders.

The booing of city players (not the booing of toure) anyone who did that is scum, but I was amazed you had a 23 page thread moaning about being booed, utd chelsea and everton aswell as european teams have had the same treatment for years, but in all that time I have never heard an away fan moan about it, god help you lot in Istanbul if you don't like a hostile atmosphere, and this was sitting next to your thread moaning about your own lack of atmosphere.

What the fuck has Istanbul got to do with it? The game was being played in England, and I was using the normal behaviour of English football fans as my yardstick. Of course you get a hostile reception overseas; you expect it in Turkey or Naples. I'm 51, and I don't think I can remember witnessing an away team being booed constantly for the whole 90 minutes, not even the vermin. You asked why the hatred/dislike (you choose your term), I've explained it. When we played our part in your commemorations, we'd like to think we'd get some sort of, I don't know, acknowledgement or respect. Obviously not though.

The only difference with the modern scouser, is the good ol' Stanley seems to have gone out of fashion.

 

[jimharri]

Re: Will Liverpool title win (if) be considered a fluke?

The booing of city players (not the booing of toure) anyone who did that is scum, but I was amazed you had a 23 page thread moaning about being booed, utd chelsea and everton aswell as european teams have had the same treatment for years, but in all that time I have never heard an away fan moan about it, god help you lot in Istanbul if you don't like a hostile atmosphere, and this was sitting next to your thread moaning about your own lack of atmosphere.

What the fuck has Istanbul got to do with it? The game was being played in England, and I was using the normal behaviour of English football fans as my yardstick. Of course you get a hostile reception overseas; you expect it in Turkey or Naples. I'm 51, and I don't think I can remember witnessing an away team being booed constantly for the whole 90 minutes, not even the vermin. You asked why the hatred/dislike (you choose your term), I've explained it. When we played our part in your commemorations, we'd like to think we'd get some sort of, I don't know, acknowledgement or respect. Obviously not though.

The only difference with the modern scouser, is the good ol' Stanley seems to have gone out of fashion.

Not the ''bricking coaches'' bit though.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Re: Will Liverpool title win (if) be considered a fluke?

What the fuck has Istanbul got to do with it? The game was being played in England, and I was using the normal behaviour of English football fans as my yardstick. Of course you get a hostile reception overseas; you expect it in Turkey or Naples. I'm 51, and I don't think I can remember witnessing an away team being booed constantly for the whole 90 minutes, not even the vermin. You asked why the hatred/dislike (you choose your term), I've explained it. When we played our part in your commemorations, we'd like to think we'd get some sort of, I don't know, acknowledgement or respect. Obviously not though.

The only difference with the modern scouser, is the good ol' Stanley seems to have gone out of fashion.

Not the ''bricking coaches'' bit though.

Aye, watching their success is like stepping back 25 years in time. So much for progression.

 

[Blue Is the Opposite of Blue]

Re: Will Liverpool title win (if) be considered a fluke?

3. Luck with Injuries.(Suarez never seems to get injured)

 

[Rich lfc]

Re: Will Liverpool title win (if) be considered a fluke?

Perhaps you should look at the reasons why. The constant self-pity and sense of entitlement really does wind up a lot of people, me included. Plus, the attitude of a section of your supporters last weekend left a lot to be desired. Booing City players throughout the whole 90 minutes, cheering when Yaya was being subbed due to injury and then bricking some of our supporters' coaches. All the more annoying when you look at how we marked that day (the floral tribute by the club, the full page ad in your match programme, the impeccably observed minute's silence) Not to mention the rank hypocrisy of you lot. Constantly whinging about ''oil money'' and ''money doesn't buy class'', while conveniently forgetting/overlooking the Moores family/Littlewoods Pools money ploughed into your club in the sixties/seventies. Then there's the constant references to the Hillsborough victims. I even saw a comment today by one of your fans on how fitting it was to hit the 96 goal mark this week, to go with the comments on what a fitting tribute it would be if you won the league in the 25th anniversary of the disaster.. For fuck's sake; let them rest in peace, rather than constantly referencing them. No one will forget them, we don't need constant reminders.

The booing of city players (not the booing of toure) anyone who did that is scum, but I was amazed you had a 23 page thread moaning about being booed, utd chelsea and everton aswell as european teams have had the same treatment for years, but in all that time I have never heard an away fan moan about it, god help you lot in Istanbul if you don't like a hostile atmosphere, and this was sitting next to your thread moaning about your own lack of atmosphere.

What the fuck has Istanbul got to do with it? The game was being played in England, and I was using the normal behaviour of English football fans as my yardstick. Of course you get a hostile reception overseas; you expect it in Turkey or Naples. I'm 51, and I don't think I can remember witnessing an away team being booed constantly for the whole 90 minutes, not even the vermin. You asked why the hatred/dislike (you choose your term), I've explained it. When we played our part in your commemorations, we'd like to think we'd get some sort of, I don't know, acknowledgement or respect. Obviously not though.

Utd have been booed 10x worse at anfield over the last 30years at anfield, and Chelsea will get it far worse next weekend, but that's football get over it, 23 pages moaning about it really, I'm sure if ou could get the etihad as noisy and intimidating you would have a 23 page thread lauding it, I have never heard utd fans moan about being booed, with regard what happened to the coaches anyone involved in that is scum pure and simple.

 

[stonerblue]

Re: Will Liverpool title win (if) be considered a fluke?

Genuine reasons?

1. No extra matches in Europe
2. Early domestic cup Elimination.
3. Luck with Injuries.(Suarez never seems to get injured)
4 .Media love in and bias.
5.Huge refereeing decisions going in their favour.
6.More than fair share of Luck.

Discuss

what tripe.

1 and 2. You could say that about most other prem teams as well.
3. Goes hand in hand with fewer games and longer rest time
4. Has minimal if any affect on the pitch.
5 As have most of the top teams at some point this season. Don't see Liverpool as being given any extra leniency.
6. Don't be ridiculous.

The fact is Liverpool have been a good side for most of the season. The front 3 may have stolen all the glory but a certain Mr Gerrard and his return to fitness and form has been the real driving force.