Nope - Delph has been exceptional at left back but is nowhere near good enough to be the focal point of our midfield. His main fault is when under pressure he makes the wrong pass usually holding onto the ball too long. Fernandinho and players at his level can take the ball in tight spaces and more importantly release it at the right time which gives players like KDB and Silva a few seconds more to do their stuff.
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jay laruja
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Nope - Delph has been exceptional at left back but is nowhere near good enough to be the focal point of our midfield. His main fault is when under pressure he makes the wrong pass usually holding onto the ball too long. Fernandinho and players at his level can take the ball in tight spaces and more importantly release it at the right time which gives players like KDB and Silva a few seconds more to do their stuff.
I mostly agree with this. Delph's role in LB is basically the same as Fernandinho's albeit without a swarm of rushing attackers and the front of the goal to protect.
leighton
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Weigl looks a pretty good player. He would be 1 of the contenders to be Fernandhinos long term replacement. I dont think it will be him next year. It will be interesting to see what way Pep goes with our midfield in the next 2 years. We got a lot of technical players scattered about in it. And I just cant see that going anytime soon. But I wonder if he will go get a destroyer in the the squad at least.
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Disagree, Delph is superb on the ball especially under pressureNope - Delph has been exceptional at left back but is nowhere near good enough to be the focal point of our midfield. His main fault is when under pressure he makes the wrong pass usually holding onto the ball too long. Fernandinho and players at his level can take the ball in tight spaces and more importantly release it at the right time which gives players like KDB and Silva a few seconds more to do their stuff.
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No chance. Delph is not and has never been great on the ball. Done a good job at LB but too limited in his passing to play in the middle.Disagree, Delph is superb on the ball especially under pressure
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Personally I think Pep will pull some bizarre relatively unknown player out of his arse to replace Fern.
Most of us will be thinking... Really? And it'll be another stroke of genius.
Most of us will be thinking... Really? And it'll be another stroke of genius.
citytilllidie
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Agree with this. We've had a go of Delph in the Fernandinho role. He failedNo chance. Delph is not and has never been great on the ball. Done a good job at LB but too limited in his passing to play in the middle.
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Aleix GarcíaPersonally I think Pep will pull some bizarre relatively unknown player out of his arse to replace Fern.
Most of us will be thinking... Really? And it'll be another stroke of genius.
mosssideblue
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I wasn't commenting on his ability to play in the middle, I was stating his obvious ball skillsNo chance. Delph is not and has never been great on the ball. Done a good job at LB but too limited in his passing to play in the middle.
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It is good that people are starting to realize Fernandinho is almost irreplaceable to this team, and the way we play under Pep.
What is funny is that the MUEN had a Premier League Strating XI and Fernandinho wasn’t even a CHOICE for midfielders!! I can’t think of a SINGLE CM I would take before him for my team. Not Kante, not Matic, not Pogba, not Henderson, not Can, not Xhaka, not Ramsey, not anyone! When fit, he is one of the 5 names that are inked onto the team sheet: Ederson, Stones, Fernandinho, Silva, KDB. Now, I suspect the starting XI picks itself pretty easily, but that is the spine of this team that makes it tick and it’s is pretty fucking awesome! Throw in Ota, the two new FBs, and SAS or SJS upfront and you have a ridiculous team that is breaking records right, left and center!
What is funny is that the MUEN had a Premier League Strating XI and Fernandinho wasn’t even a CHOICE for midfielders!! I can’t think of a SINGLE CM I would take before him for my team. Not Kante, not Matic, not Pogba, not Henderson, not Can, not Xhaka, not Ramsey, not anyone! When fit, he is one of the 5 names that are inked onto the team sheet: Ederson, Stones, Fernandinho, Silva, KDB. Now, I suspect the starting XI picks itself pretty easily, but that is the spine of this team that makes it tick and it’s is pretty fucking awesome! Throw in Ota, the two new FBs, and SAS or SJS upfront and you have a ridiculous team that is breaking records right, left and center!
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ThisDisagree, Delph is superb on the ball especially under pressure
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Nope, this....This
“Delph has been exceptional at left back but is nowhere near good enough to be the focal point of our midfield. His main fault is when under pressure he makes the wrong pass usually holding onto the ball too long. Fernandinho and players at his level can take the ball in tight spaces and more importantly release it at the right time which gives players like KDB and Silva a few seconds more to do their stuff.”
He doesn’t have the 360 vision of Fernandinho. Not saying he couldn’t do a decent job, but decent is not good enough for that role in this scheme.
mosssideblue
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I seem to be misunderstood. I am not talking about any position, I am talking of his ability with the ball at this feet and under pressure - imo, he is technically sound and as cool as a cucumberNope, this....
“Delph has been exceptional at left back but is nowhere near good enough to be the focal point of our midfield. His main fault is when under pressure he makes the wrong pass usually holding onto the ball too long. Fernandinho and players at his level can take the ball in tight spaces and more importantly release it at the right time which gives players like KDB and Silva a few seconds more to do their stuff.”
He doesn’t have the 360 vision of Fernandinho. Not saying he couldn’t do a decent job, but decent is not good enough for that role in this scheme.
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I thought we were talking about him being able to cover the CM position. After all, this is the Weigl thread, isn’t it? Are we not talking about people who can play that role?I seem to be misunderstood. I am not talking about any position, I am talking of his ability with the ball at this feet and under pressure - imo, he is technically sound and as cool as a cucumber
In this team, in this scheme, I don’t think it is him. I disagree with your “cool as a cucumber” comment, although he is technically decent.
mosssideblue
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No, I simply picked up on the poster who said Delph wasn't good with the ball at his fee, especially under pressure - no biggieI thought we were talking about him being able to cover the CM position. After all, this is the Weigl thread, isn’t it? Are we not talking about people who can play that role?
In this team, in this scheme, I don’t think it is him. I disagree with your “cool as a cucumber” comment, although he is technically decent.
We will have to agree to disagree about him being cool as a cucumber though
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Cool (not like a cucumber, like “we good”)No, I simply picked up on the poster who said Delph wasn't good with the ball at his fee, especially under pressure - no biggie
We will have to agree to disagree about him being cool as a cucumber though
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Weigl is the luxury buy but as @HolisticJim correctly points out, Pep could just as well unearth an unheralded gem to play the pivote much like he did when he used an unknown 4th division player in Busquets
Intrigued with the possibility of Aleix García becoming the next Pep project. He had the air of composure on him when he played here. How is he doing in Girona?
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Definitely not this.Nope, this....
“Delph has been exceptional at left back but is nowhere near good enough to be the focal point of our midfield. His main fault is when under pressure he makes the wrong pass usually holding onto the ball too long. Fernandinho and players at his level can take the ball in tight spaces and more importantly release it at the right time which gives players like KDB and Silva a few seconds more to do their stuff.”
He doesn’t have the 360 vision of Fernandinho. Not saying he couldn’t do a decent job, but decent is not good enough for that role in this scheme.
avoidconfusion
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Nope, this....
“Delph has been exceptional at left back but is nowhere near good enough to be the focal point of our midfield. His main fault is when under pressure he makes the wrong pass usually holding onto the ball too long. Fernandinho and players at his level can take the ball in tight spaces and more importantly release it at the right time which gives players like KDB and Silva a few seconds more to do their stuff.”
He doesn’t have the 360 vision of Fernandinho. Not saying he couldn’t do a decent job, but decent is not good enough for that role in this scheme.
I don't think he has even played in midfield often enough for us to make this kind of judgement.