Ketogenic Diet

My remaing relatives my mum and 2 older brothers are diabetic,both my brothers have had recent heart attacks,as of last summer i was ok but i have put on more weight since then as i'm on a bad run of breaking bones,i decided to give this a go in case i'm a step nearer to diabetes,it's as good a way to lose the weight as any,in the meantime i hope i take after my dad and not my mum health wise

Me and the missus lost 3 stone each in the first 9 months. I lost it quicker but I think men tend to for some reason.

I just wish I'd known about it a few years ago, as it's meant to have positive effects on people with Alzheimer's/dementia, which my father passed away with in December 2017.

I'm convinced that over indulging in carbs, especially beige carbs and refined sugar is terrible for us, and I used to hammer them without a care in the world.
 
Can coconut oil be used instead - it's quite nice in black coffee.

Yes mate. I used coconut oil in the early days to get my stomach adapted to MCT's because the mct oil itself was making me feel grim.

It's worth reading up on coconut oil and mct's if you haven't. I think coconut oil has C10 molecule chains in it whereas MCT oil has C8 molecule chains, which produce ketones more quickly and efficiently. Something along those lines anyway.
 
Me and the missus lost 3 stone each in the first 9 months. I lost it quicker but I think men tend to for some reason.

I just wish I'd known about it a few years ago, as it's meant to have positive effects on people with Alzheimer's/dementia, which my father passed away with in December 2017.

I'm convinced that over indulging in carbs, especially beige carbs and refined sugar is terrible for us, and I used to hammer them without a care in the world.
I'm all or nothing with choc and cake in particular,i can have it in the house just fine but if i eat even a tiny bit that's me off and i'll eat nothing but that for days,since i've been on this i've not had a single craving,sugar is like a drug to me,it's dangerous stuff,i don't think i will lose more weight quickly as i can't excercise,i'm resting a lot of the day and evening,i'm amazed i've dropped so much already
 
Yes mate. I used coconut oil in the early days to get my stomach adapted to MCT's because the mct oil itself was making me feel grim.

It's worth reading up on coconut oil and mct's if you haven't. I think coconut oil has C10 molecule chains in it whereas MCT oil has C8 molecule chains, which produce ketones more quickly and efficiently. Something along those lines anyway.
I only asked because I can't stand full fat milk, cream or butter which makes keto difficult /awkward.
 
I'm all or nothing with choc and cake in particular,i can have it in the house just fine but if i eat even a tiny bit that's me off and i'll eat nothing but that for days,since i've been on this i've not had a single craving,sugar is like a drug to me,it's dangerous stuff,i don't think i will lose more weight quickly as i can't excercise,i'm resting a lot of the day and evening,i'm amazed i've dropped so much already

It's good that it's working for you then. Losing weight is all part of the feel good factor of it. I hope your brain likes the ketones too. Mine loves it. I have some crazy dreams though.

If your weight loss stalls for a while, don't worry about it too much. I think that happens to the majority of us. The rapid weight loss at first is probably water, as what can happen with a few different crash diets, but then as you've probably learnt, if you have no glucose in your system your body will switch to ketones from your body fat instead. I think this is where intermittent fasting comes in too. The fat you consume makes you feel fuller for longer and your body has an ample supply of energy from the ketones produced from your fat reserves.
 
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It's good that it's working for you then. Losing weight is all part of the feel good factor of it. I hope your brain likes the ketones too. Mine loves it. I have some crazy dreams though.

If your weight loss stalls for a while, don't worry about it too much. I think that happens to the majority of us. The rapid weight loss at first is probably water, as what can happen with a few different crash diets, but then as you've probably learnt, if you have no glucose in your system your body will switch to ketones from your body fat instead. I think this is where intermittent fasting comes in too. The fat you consume makes you feel fuller for longer and your body had an ample supply of energy from the ketones produced from your fat reserves.
I was going to ask about when it slows down but you've answered it,i've learnt a lot today thank you
 
I had forgotten what was in the keto pills i've been taking so i had a look just now,it has sodium,potassium,magnesium etc which explains why i haven't had the keto flu,upped the MCT to a teaspoon twice a day

Can you link me up with these keto pills so I can have a gander please.
I just wanna see if I think they'll benefit me when I come out of keto when I beer binge.

I forgot to say another big plus I've had since doing this - I've not had a cold or man flu since I've been keto.
The autumn/winter of 2017 I had colds and a couple of chest infections. Possibly the death of my father didn't help, stress and all that, but last winter, since keto, not even a sniff. So last autumn/winter nothing whatsoever, even at work with colds going around the office, I think me and the missus (we work together) were the only ones to not get it.
I've not been ill since keto... but have had bouts of mild keto flu, which I don't really class as flu or a cold, if that makes sense.
 
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I'm a stone down and mod to large ketones,another stone to go,i would recomend this diet,my GP approves
Apologies, not read the whole thread so you might have discussed it already, but how do you go about a keto diet as a vegetarian?
 
Read the sodium part of this guide and have a Google about increasing salt intake on keto.

I drink a cup of bouillon pretty much every afternoon.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/supplements
I am well into this diet now and interested to read everybody else's experience of it. I make my own bone broth, simple beef bones free from local butchers. I am interested to hear about your bouillon. Do you buy it or make your own with fish bones? Also is this more or less favourable than bone broth?
 
Apologies, not read the whole thread so you might have discussed it already, but how do you go about a keto diet as a vegetarian?
Sophie has put you a good link,it seems tricky to do at first look but goggling there is lots of places to guide you,i don't eat fish but i eat dairy,i was on low fat but now i've gone full fat on everything,adding nuts and seeds to everything,you eat butter rather than marg olive oil,you can have berries but no other fruit,veg like broccoli and cauliflower etc are fine,no potatoes or carrots or anything out of the ground,salad stuff is ok,advocado,quorn and tofu is ok,start with the link sophie gave you as that's where i started,once you get into it i've found it easy,i'm a picky eater as well,i never feel hungry as it's not a diet as such it just takes you away from carbs and sugar so you use fat reserves for energy,MCT oil helps get you into keto,that's a must,got mine off amazon,take it gently or you'll be on the loo all day,most people seem to start the day with MCT oil and butter in coffee,yuk not for me so i put it in full fat milk instead,also look into to intermittent fasting,you fast over night,take the coffee thing and don't eat till lunch,finish eating about 6pm or so,you won't feel hungry but you might feel like you have got a mild flu for a bit,buy some keto sticks from amazon and you can measure your ketones in your wee and it'll tell you where you are,Use salt as you need to keep your sodium levels up
 
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I am well into this diet now and interested to read everybody else's experience of it. I make my own bone broth, simple beef bones free from local butchers. I am interested to hear about your bouillon. Do you buy it or make your own with fish bones? Also is this more or less favourable than bone broth?

I've never had bone broth myself. I wouldn't mind doing at some point.

I buy Marigold's swiss vegetable bouillon from either Tesco or Sainsbury's for £2 a pot and mix a healthy spoonful with boiling water and drink that at my desk, purely to get the salt from it. I also drink stock cubes too for the same reason and to mix the flavours up a bit. My favourite being Tesco's own Chicken ones at the moment, 50p a pack.
 
I've never had bone broth myself. I wouldn't mind doing at some point.

I buy Marigold's swiss vegetable bouillon from either Tesco or Sainsbury's for £2 a pot and mix a healthy spoonful with boiling water and drink that at my desk, purely to get the salt from it. I also drink stock cubes too for the same reason and to mix the flavours up a bit. My favourite being Tesco's own Chicken ones at the moment, 50p a pack.
I used to love Oxo cubes as a kid but I also loved dipping bread in it as well ;-)

So the bouillon is just a veggie stock is it?
 
I used to love Oxo cubes as a kid but I also loved dipping bread in it as well ;-)

So the bouillon is just a veggie stock is it?

Haha. I used to occasionally get a cup of Oxo off the bloke who used to walk around the edge of the pitch at Maine Rd serving hot drinks, when I was a kid. I think it was Oxo before it changing to Bovril.

Here's the link to the bouillon so you can have a look. It was recommended by some people on a reddit page I was reading a while ago from people doing keto in UK.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/255956181
 
Haha. I used to occasionally get a cup of Oxo off the bloke who used to walk around the edge of the pitch at Maine Rd serving hot drinks, when I was a kid. I think it was Oxo before it changing to Bovril.

Here's the link to the bouillon so you can have a look. It was recommended by some people on a reddit page I was reading a while ago from people doing keto in UK.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/255956181
Cheers for that link pal, it is certainly an easier/more convenient way of getting your electrolytes in. I will give it a go as well as the bone broth.
 
Cheers for that link pal, it is certainly an easier/more convenient way of getting your electrolytes in. I will give it a go as well as the bone broth.

No worries mate. I think it's a pretty nice drink, pretty salty like, but I like that.

I'm just about to drink a small tub of double cream too. Mmmm.
 

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