Var debate 2019/20

As I said in another thread to me it’s not the right or wrongs of the decision it’s the fact that it is ruining everything the game is about for me. I go to see goals and to celebrate

So imagine the greatest moment in our clubs recent history

Balotelli...... AGUEROOOOOOOO.......

We are now going to a VAR check.

Imagine that moment totally ruined by var irrespective of the outcome.

It’s shit

This shit again.

There wasn't a single thing in that play that could be reviewed, so why people keep trying to bring it up in this discussion is beyond me. it's akin to saying "let's check Kompany's goal vs Leicester" ffs.

Plenty of better ways to make your point pal.
 
This shit again.

There wasn't a single thing in that play that could be reviewed, so why people keep trying to bring it up in this discussion is beyond me. it's akin to saying "let's check Kompany's goal vs Leicester" ffs.

Plenty of better ways to make your point pal.

It’s not the point pal.

We are celebrating the spontaneous winning of a goal in in injury time and all of us know we then have to wait for a var check. Every goal is checked . We have no idea whether they will disallow it

Did you know that the goal on Saturday v Spurs was handball. No you didn’t and we I. The ground would not either . It would ruin the moment .

I will make any point I want to pal
 
Yes but if you as a fan get screwed do you just keep going ,feeding the system pretending things are just fine..?
There is a marked diffence from turning out in numbers home and away providing large vocal support from the terrace in the days when Football was a raw, passionate ,vocal, spectator experience ..and roaring the team on... to the mess which is the premier ship 'product' today.. I'd like our game back...snatched back from the US style video led dramatic histrionics which now characterize top level Football.
Please don't confuse support for our great club with support for the current system..there is a marked difference between the two,imo.
I withdrew my support for the system 3 years ago.No one can tell me im not a Blue.I cannot abide cheats and the game is full of them..and getting worse.
If our 'top referee' (lol)cannot see the most blatant penalty yards in front of him ..and has the audacity to tell the var official on his earpiece 'no penalty' then God help us all.

If ,as some posters have said. .he didnt see the incident clearly how come he over ruledVar?

If..he was taking advice and.. Var didn't think it was a pen....what's the point.?The game is dead.
100% with you , summed up perfectly.
 
This shit again.

There wasn't a single thing in that play that could be reviewed, so why people keep trying to bring it up in this discussion is beyond me. it's akin to saying "let's check Kompany's goal vs Leicester" ffs.

Plenty of better ways to make your point pal.
So it wouldn’t ruin it for you. Good for you. I can tell you now it would for me. Id go mad for about 0.5 seconds then stop waiting for a goal check because believe me they’d check absolutely everything. 2 minutes later you could celebrate and it would still be immense but no where near as good. So for you to dismiss it as “this shit again” is a bit arrogant and patronising to be fair. It’s what most people think - just because you don’t doesn’t make it bollox
 
grief tim, have a go by all means but all of this post is miles wide of the mark

So what happened the World Cup? Is there a VAR from the NRL (who no doubt has been retrained and got football experience)?

Good grief. Our ref are shit mate.

Btw I bet the Aussie is probably the best of the bunch
 
So what happened the World Cup? Is there a VAR from the NRL (who no doubt has been retrained and got football experience)?

Good grief. Our ref are shit mate.

the world cup was quite simple, clattenburg quit leaving a place for an english ref in the elite group. atkinson was too old so not eligible, no other ref had the time to be promoted into the elite group in time to officiate at the tournament.

the aussie ref came from reffing football in Australia, not rugby
 
Especially, when our officials were already considered amongst the worst on the plant e.g. no ref at the Men’s World Cup.

Btw one of the VARs has come from Australia where I think he was a Rugby League ref. No doubt he’s done his conversion training

He might judge one of these controversial handballs as a knock-on.
 
the world cup was quite simple, clattenburg quit leaving a place for an english ref in the elite group. atkinson was too old so not eligible, no other ref had the time to be promoted into the elite group in time to officiate at the tournament.

That may well be one reason, but more likely that from PiGMOL's current bunch of incapable tossers that noboby was considered to be suitable .
 
the world cup was quite simple, clattenburg quit leaving a place for an english ref in the elite group. atkinson was too old so not eligible, no other ref had the time to be promoted into the elite group in time to officiate at the tournament.


From the current representatives of the PiGMOL clan, who do you consider has demonstrated their suitability to be promoted to the elite World Cup group - based upon their weekly performances in the PL ?

Oliver - who seems to be an " up and coming " favourite of their clan ?
 

Oliver is clearly best placed and had some very good champions league and europa league appointments in the last 18 months, next in line would be anthony taylor

there is absolutely a dearth of refereeing talent in this country at the top of the game, but those at the top at the moment are decent and of comparable standard to other top refs in europe
 
This shit again.

There wasn't a single thing in that play that could be reviewed, so why people keep trying to bring it up in this discussion is beyond me. it's akin to saying "let's check Kompany's goal vs Leicester" ffs.

Plenty of better ways to make your point pal.
It’s not about that after seeing the goal replayed in hindsight that we know there was nothing that could rule them out.

It’s that, as fans in the stadium, we don’t know if we’ve missed something that may be looked at there and then as the ball hits the net. We are there live and in the seconds after the ball hits the net we don’t know what we might have not seen.

For all we know there and then Kompany may have had hold of a QPR player’s shirt as he made his run as Kun scored, we don’t know if Kun was actually stood offside when Kompany hit that screamer against Leicester.

For our two goals that stood against Spurs on Saturday my first thoughts were:
Was Raheem offside then?
Was de Bruyne offside before he crossed the ball?

And I didn’t celebrate properly.

We cannot celebrate goals properly anymore. It’s ruining what’s special about the sport.
 
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Oliver is clearly best placed and had some very good champions league and europa league appointments in the last 18 months, next in line would be anthony taylor

there is absolutely a dearth of refereeing talent in this country at the top of the game, but those at the top at the moment are decent and of comparable standard to other top refs in europe


Would that be the same Anthony Taylor the lone and impartial Altrincham supporter from a family of rag supporters ?

And if Oliver is the " best placed " , based upon his performance last week, there is no chance of PiGMOL being able to put forward a representative , and substitute " chasm " for
" dearth " and I may possibly agree with you.
 
Ref's get abuse for getting 10% of decisions wrong, if VAR means SAY 3% of decisions are wrong, I'll take the 3% thank you very much
 
Ref's get abuse for getting 10% of decisions wrong, if VAR means SAY 3% of decisions are wrong, I'll take the 3% thank you very much

Their stance appears to suggest that they will not accept that ANY decisions they make are wrong.

So 100% correct must be the VAR/PiGMOL target that they set their officials.
 
Oliver is clearly best placed and had some very good champions league and europa league appointments in the last 18 months, next in line would be anthony taylor

there is absolutely a dearth of refereeing talent in this country at the top of the game, but those at the top at the moment are decent and of comparable standard to other top refs in europe
That's a very low bar. Have you seen ome of the 'champions' league refs we have had?
 
the world cup was quite simple, clattenburg quit leaving a place for an english ref in the elite group. atkinson was too old so not eligible, no other ref had the time to be promoted into the elite group in time to officiate at the tournament.

the aussie ref came from reffing football in Australia, not rugby

You refs always stick together mate lol.

We should have refs queuing up to be in the elite groups rather then be scraping the bottom of the barrel. I don’t mind people making genuine mistakes. It happens in every job but Swarbrick’s explanation of the non penalty on Rodri has seriously damaged the little confidence City fans had in our officials.

I wish the ex NRL Official well. I’m glad to hear he’s served his time in Australian football as well
 
You refs always stick together mate lol.

We should have refs queuing up to be in the elite groups rather then be scraping the bottom of the barrel. I don’t mind people making genuine mistakes. It happens in every job but Swarbrick’s explanation of the non penalty on Rodri has seriously damaged the little confidence City fans had in our officials.

I wish the ex NRL Official well. I’m glad to hear he’s served his time in Australian football as well
What’s his role? Is he actually acting as the VAR official at PL games? Or is he just part of a team, is he just passing on his experiences ?
 

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