Keir Starmer

[Banned Tosspot]

Lol

How he's on here and Michael McIntyre is a millionaire, I'll never know.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

They could have had one but chose the wrong Milliband.

Indeed they did, but anything with whiff of Blairism was anathema to the emerging Labour Party. David was far more electable than Eddie!

 

[urban genie]

Indeed they did, but anything with whiff of Blairism was anathema to the emerging Labour Party. David was far more electable than Eddie!

The question is would the smears on thier father and the antisemetic treatment that happened to Ed by the likes of the mail plus the constant attacks on him as a person have happened to his brother?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Straight out of the Daily Mail/Express/Telegraph*

* Delete or add as appropriate

Doesn't make it wrong though. The first step to recovering from e.g. alcoholism is admitting to yourself that you have a problem.

And you still haven't taken that first step. You cannot simply burden the country with much more debt and businesses with much more cost, and expect no negative impact from this. Labour are always focusing on what to spend money on and never thinking about the adverse effects caused by taking the money.

Once you admit this, maybe you can start to put some policies together which people might find more credible.

 

[Len Rum]

I don't blame people for rejecting labour because they feel brexit will somehow save their area and improve things or because they don't trust some olld guy who is a london MP and seen as not relatable.
But if they believe what they have chosen is going to improve life for them, then they will be dissapointed.

This sums up the election well.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

They could have had one but chose the wrong Milliband.

Yes, I think with the benefit of hindsight that decision has very much shaped politics

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

They need to discover a leader and an identity somewhere in between momentum and the blairite plastics.

Like a sort of Jeremy Milliband you mean.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Like a sort of Jeremy Milliband you mean.

More of an ed corbyn ;-)

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Hopefully they will choose Rebecca Long-Bailey.

Incredibly, she is even thicker than Corbyn.

 

[urban genie]

What I will say to any like the chumps on social media saying they are leaving labour with jezza because they only joined because of him.

Well you told people who left labour when he was appointed to fuck off, so you can also do the same and fuck off then, it is as pathetic as those that blindly followed the new labour/progress ideology and left because we went slightly left wing.


You are either commited and in labour fighting for labour values or just hangers on.

I wil stay and support labour as I did under kinnock, smith, blair(except once tbh) brown, milliband and corbyn.
Even if I didn't agree all the time with the party and direction, they were always gonna fight my corner better than the tories.

 

[George Hannah]

What I will say to any like the chumps on social media saying they are leaving labour with jezza because they only joined because of him.
Well you told people who left labour when he was appointed to fuck off, so you can also do the same and fuck off then, it is as pathetic as those that blindly followed the new labour/progress ideology and left because we went slightly left wing. You are either commited and in labour fighting for labour values or just hangers on.I wil stay and support labour as I did under kinnock, smith, blair(except once tbh) brown, milliband and corbyn.Even if I didn't agree all the time with the party and direction, they were always gonna fight my corner better than the tories.

Bit late for protestations of blind loyalty, the trick is to back a leadership that has a chance of getting into power and work from there. The current incumbents are driven by hatred of the compromises necessary to achieve that and those who made them.

 

[urban genie]

Bit late for protestations of blind loyalty, the trick is to back a leadership that has a chance of getting into power and work from there. The current incumbents are driven by hatred of the compromises necessary to achieve that and those who made them.

Whatever George, the leader picked was backedby the members and those that didn't threw their toys out and left which was pathetic, those that are now claimingthey will do the same now he is going are equally pathetic imho.

Look at the tory members they will back any fucker no matter how soft tory or vile racist they are and work as one to get power when it counts.

All side of labour have acted like this for three years and ultimately this will have been a small factor in some peoples choice of vote.

 

[George Hannah]

Whatever George, the leader picked was backed by the members and those that didn't threw their toys out and left which was pathetic, those that are now claiming they will do the same now he is going are equally pathetic imho. Look at the tory members they will back any fucker no matter how soft tory or vile racist they are and work as one to get power when it counts.

That's the problem right there. Thanks to Red Ed the Labour leader selection process has been corrupted by the reactionary big unions using Momentum membership as the gullible instrument of their power play in the NEC and CLPs. Hence the current catastrophe - picking winners shouldn't be left to the Tories. Who do you think can appeal to the party base?

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Whatever George, the leader picked was backedby the members and those that didn't threw their toys out and left which was pathetic, those that are now claimingthey will do the same now he is going are equally pathetic imho.

Look at the tory members they will back any fucker no matter how soft tory or vile racist they are and work as one to get power when it counts.

All side of labour have acted like this for three years and ultimately this will have been a small factor in some peoples choice of vote.

Correspondingly a lot of Labour MPs still backed a vile antisemite and a number of these will be putting themselves forward.

 

[urban genie]

Correspondingly a lot of Labour MPs still backed a vile antisemite and a number of these will be putting themselves forward.

Which was not my post.

My post was about people saying they are gonna quit because jezza is going and how pathetic that is.

Your either commited to labour or not, this ooh I didn't get what I wanted so I am gone is quite sad.

 

[Blue Til Death]

Do you understand the connotations of that phrase?

Fully .... Do you????

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Which was not my post.

My post was about people saying they are gonna quit because jezza is going and how pathetic that is.

Your either commited to labour or not, this ooh I didn't get what I wanted so I am gone is quite sad.

No - it's democratic. Politics should not be like supporting a football team. It's about beliefs and your principals. If you don't agree them, you have every right to leave.

 

[urban genie]

No - it's democratic. Politics should not be like supporting a football team. It's about beliefs and your principals. If you don't agree them, you have every right to leave.

These tossers don't even know who the next leader will be, to jump ship before even knowing what direction the party will head is pathetic.

Of course if suddenly an neo-liberal soft right type go in again then by all means leave with you conscience, but to fuck off amd not even bother to choose the leader or care is poor for these apparently politically charged individuals.

As I said I once abbandoned labour in blairs 3rd election and not because of iraq but other policies and the lack of investment in the north and voted green, I also gave up membership, but I rejoined and backed brown because you knew a tory government meant austerity and hardship after the crash and those after .

 

[George Hannah]

That's a good reason not to vote for someone. Was there seats, I don't know, its a little different to Johnson who lies every time he opens his mouth and has a long and chequered history of lying through his back teeth on virtually everything.

Why pick on BoJo - who hasn't? People clearly like some lies better than others.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

These tossers don't even know who the next leader will be, to jump ship before even knowing what direction the party will head is pathetic.

Of course if suddenly an neo-liberal soft right type go in again then by all means leave with you conscience, but to fuck off amd not even bother to choose the leader or care is poor for these apparently politically charged individuals.

As I said I once abbandoned labour in blairs 3rd election and not because of iraq but other policies and the lack of investment in the north and voted green, I also gave up membership, but I rejoined and backed brown because you knew a tory government meant austerity and hardship after the crash and those after .

"Neo liberal soft right" is that how you like to pigeon hole and label?
Voting green will have solved the lack of investment in the North. Voting for Bown to continue bankrupting the country wouldn't have helped either. You strike me as confused, contradictory and consumed by deep rooted hatred of others with opposing views.
I'll leave it there - no doubt to return to another of your diatribes.