John Stones - 2019/20 Performances

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Gaudion M said:
In retrospect we should have got VVD when he was at Celtic and let them keep Denayer. They were both decent prospects but its alarming how differently their respective career paths have gone.
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Van Dijk is clearly on another level but, to be fair, at Denayer's age he was only just playing his first season with Southampton. Plus, although it looked like he might end up fading into obscurity, he's become part of the spine of a decent Lyon team and is enjoying his second full season of Champions League football.

To be honest, I'd rather have him than John or Otamendi right now but he came through our academy so he obviously had no future with us.
 
With Laporte back and a fully fit squad bar Sane who isn't far off, it's hard to see him even making the bench vs Madrid.

As much as I'm not a huge fan of his, it is a shame to see the way things have gone for John. I think he probably needs a fresh start somewhere he's going to play regularly in order to get his career back on track.
 
David 'El Mago' Silva said:
With Laporte back and a fully fit squad bar Sane who isn't far off, it's hard to see him even making the bench vs Madrid.

As much as I'm not a huge fan of his, it is a shame to see the way things have gone for John. I think he probably needs a fresh start somewhere he's going to play regularly in order to get his career back on track.
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He's a bit of a vanity project. We should just admit we overpaid for a player who has shown occasional glimmers of promise but in the main has been a waste of money and time.
 
nellyonthewing said:
He's a bit of a vanity project. We should just admit we overpaid for a player who has shown occasional glimmers of promise but in the main has been a waste of money and time.
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As frustrating as he is, I'd struggle to call him a waste of money and time when he's played a part in two record breaking title wins. Similar to how I think Otamendi has been utter dogshit for the vast majority of the time he's been with us but can't deny he's played he's part when things have gone well.
 
nellyonthewing said:
He's a bit of a vanity project. We should just admit we overpaid for a player who has shown occasional glimmers of promise but in the main has been a waste of money and time.
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If Stones is sold we would get our money back I would have thought, and as mentioned by Tugay OC he has played a big enough part in trophies won under Pep. I still hold on to hope, that he finds his mojo again, but he needs to do it soon if it is to be with us.
 
Blue Bogey said:
If Stones is sold we would get our money back I would have thought, and as mentioned by Tugay OC he has played a big enough part in trophies won under Pep. I still hold on to hope, that he finds his mojo again, but he needs to do it soon if it is to be with us.
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I don't see that happening. Who would want him? If he cant nail down a place in our side, when he has Pep as a cheerleader and a style of football which really should suit his attributes, I don't see him working out anywhere else. Which top side is going to want him and for £50m? If he was to go to a lower level team, he would have to defend more, which he can't do. I just don't envisage a huge number of clubs wanting him and we will be praying for Arteta to take a gamble on him, even then, I don't see Arsenal taking a £50m gamble.
 
OrigamiNinja said:
I don't see that happening. Who would want him? If he cant nail down a place in our side, when he has Pep as a cheerleader and a style of football which really should suit his attributes, I don't see him working out anywhere else. Which top side is going to want him and for £50m? If he was to go to a lower level team, he would have to defend more, which he can't do. I just don't envisage a huge number of clubs wanting him and we will be praying for Arteta to take a gamble on him, even then, I don't see Arsenal taking a £50m gamble.
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When you put it like that, you may have a point, but when I see how much Maguire went for, £80m, then £50m should be achievable. Hopefully he has an inspirational 2nd half to the season and proves his doubters wrong.
 
People on this forum actually think we'd get our money back for stones, just because of inflation. We'd do well to get 10m with the wages he's on.
 
Blue Bogey said:
When you put it like that, you may have a point, but when I see how much Maguire went for, £80m, then £50m should be achievable. Hopefully he has an inspirational 2nd half to the season and proves his doubters wrong.
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£50m? You must be fucking living in alternative universe. This guy wont go for more than £20m
 
I really wanted it to work out for Stones as I liked the look of him at Everton and for a few months next to Laporte he looked the business. But wow has his football fallen off a cliff. He is just a disaster. We will no doubt get rid in the summer and if he does not sort his head out soon he will be lucky to find a Championship team that would take him in a few years.
 
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