COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Saddleworth2 said:
Looks a pretty simple contraption. I have to admit to being cynical when the government asked for them to be manufactured but maybe it was an inspired move. I cant see many F1 teams have difficulty manufacturing that.
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Me too. I thought it was just froth. Forgot we are actually an ingenious nation.
 
AlgarveBlu said:
Been one of the most astonishing revelations to me so far is just how many people literally do not do any research at all even on a topic as important as this for themselves, family and friends.

I’m all for having a laugh and have probably taken that to my extreme in my youth with hedonism bordering on insanity but I was still always aware of many issues in the world from arts, finance, politics and sciences. Having nearly spent as much time in the UK and overseas I do think the UK has a disproportionally higher amount of daytime TV watchers than Europe who only seem to know a lot about insurance claims or collecting sovereign gold coins.
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The daytime TV thing is an interesting point. I was working from home yesterday and the missus put channel 5 on in the background for a bit. There was some unbelievable arsehole talk radio presenter on a panel that was obviously on just for his ludicrously right wing Trumpian like views talking absolute shit about the coronavirus. I’m guessing this is typical of daytime TV and gullible people who have preconceived ideas will latch on to bollocks like this to reinforce their own idiotic opinions. At times like this where it’s important to get accurate information across, producers should really think twice about using shock jock techniques to create controversy.

I should point out that channel 5 didn’t stay on very long.
 
west didsblue said:
The daytime TV thing is an interesting point. I was working from home yesterday and the missus put channel 5 on in the background for a bit. There was some unbelievable arsehole talk radio presenter on a panel that was obviously on just for his ludicrously right wing Trumpian like views talking absolute shit about the coronavirus. I’m guessing this is typical of daytime TV and gullible people who have preconceived ideas will latch on to bollocks like this to reinforce their own idiotic opinions. At times like this where it’s important to get accurate information across, producers should really think twice about using shock jock techniques to create controversy.

I should point out that channel 5 didn’t stay on very long.
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Daytime tv is the worst thing ever.
This morning then that bloody loose women.
And these twats get paid
 
AlgarveBlu said:
very interesting and as you say it looks like we still need more research and data feedback on that ( although the less data we get back the better obviously on mortality) -

but if it was proven that you should stop taking/reducing your inhibitors could this been done relatively safely over a short period of higher risk for you? I know the answer won’t be straightforward as I assume these chemicals have time lags in the system.
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There are three main classes of antihypertensive drugs, the two mentioned above and calcium channel blockers. One could possibly switch to these. Also some people take diuretics.

There are presumably clinical criteria GPs use before deciding which are best for an individual. My feeling is normally they try an ACE inhibitor and if that doesn't work you take another one.

I think coming of an ACE inhibitor and moving to a Calcium channel blocker would need to be done under supervision.
 
Marvin said:
Yes. I am isolating. So are my Mum and Dad. I skyped them yesterday but was upset at their reaction that a BBC report was suggesting they'd still be isolating in 12 months. That really isn't the projection at all.

People IMO do need to isolate and follow the advice but they also need hope.
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Isolation wil lbe a major issue for many, I know somewho have only been in it for
Gelsons Dad said:
well not completely. Using the spirit of the blitz to set a standard of social conduct is not a bad thing. As you say, the reality was very different to the myth but if you spread the myth people will be persuaded to some degree that it was the norm and tend to want to emulate it.
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People are using it to justify stupidity though, it is mainly being voiced by those advocating not isolating and not following NHS advice with some idea we didn't have to lock down in the blitz like the situations are the same.
 
give it to gordon said:
Can anyone help me with advice please as I have read so much I am confused.

We are self isolating because my lads gf has been told to ( she works in hospital ). My lads bosses have told him to do the same, which means we have been told to as well by our surgery.

Can one of us go out and get food etc or do we have to get someone to shop for us ?

Thanks ...
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I find the safest way for me is to send the Mrs out and then strictly follow social distancing protocols, the last cuddle I had to endure was 2 weeks ago, so stones and birds and all that. This may be helpful guidelines for shopping depending on your risk profile with the virus -


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  • First and foremost, go grocery shopping as little as possible.
  • If you can limit your number of trips to the store, you'll limit your exposure.
  • Go solo. Do not bring others with you unless you have to. Limiting exposure to just yourself reduces the chance of carrying the virus home or infecting others while out.
  • What to Bring
    • Bring hand sanitizer / germicide and use it on your hands and on the shopping cart before AND after you're finished shopping.
    • Avoid handling cash if you can, bring and use credit or debit options. This reduces the amount of direct interactions you have to have with the checkout person.
    • There are two schools of thought on reusable bags right now. There are bag shortages at some stores, so bringing them could be smart. But if you don't disinfect your bags, and don't plan on disinfecting them before you go to the store, leave them at home during the pandemic.
 
ZenHalfTimeCrock said:
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Apologies if someone already posted this.
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Bollocks!
 
Can anyone clarify the policy on essential workers who’s children are eligible to go back to school?

My wife is classed as an essential work but I’m not. Our school is saying that unless BOTH parents are classed as essential workers then our daughter is not eligible to go back to school. However other schools in our area are saying it only needs to be ONE parent (out of two) who needs to be classed as an essential work for their child to be allowed back to school.

Our school isn’t alone in having this “both” parents policy, but it seems wrong because I earn a lot more that my wife and I can continue to work from home, but this school policy means my wife will have to stay home to look after our daughter and not be able to work where she is desperately needed.

Anyone else affected by this?
 
sir baconface said:
You’ve made the most of it since :)
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To be fair, I had forgotten I had quoted it once before. Still, it illustrates the point. Just over 3 weeks ago, I - one of the most alarmist on here probably - casually went for pub lunch without giving it a care in the world. How things have changed in only 3 weeks.

And unrelated, this self isolation lark is all well and good but my Mum is 85 and lives alone in Poynton, 200 miles from me. I've got an online shop coming for her on Tuesday (for which she will probably not get half the things ordered) and after that there are no delivery slots available from any of the supermarkets, nothing. It's not a question of slots being weeks off, there simply are none. WTF is someone supposed to do??? I had thought this shopping madness would calm down in a week or so, but it seems to have got worse. We got an online shop delivered last night and most of the essentials were absent. No milk, no bread. No substitutions, just nothing.
 
west didsblue said:
The daytime TV thing is an interesting point. I was working from home yesterday and the missus put channel 5 on in the background for a bit. There was some unbelievable arsehole talk radio presenter on a panel that was obviously on just for his ludicrously right wing Trumpian like views talking absolute shit about the coronavirus. I’m guessing this is typical of daytime TV and gullible people who have preconceived ideas will latch on to bollocks like this to reinforce their own idiotic opinions. At times like this where it’s important to get accurate information across, producers should really think twice about using shock jock techniques to create controversy.

I should point out that channel 5 didn’t stay on very long.
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spoke to my lad about this, as his generation’s views are being shaped by social media platforms unlike my generation and although a lot can be learned from SM, the ratio of bullshit, scamsters, trolls and down right weirdos heavily outweighs the more credible information/news on there.

I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve said to them you can’t live real life experiences through an electronic device, I mean they even bloody watch other people playing on the PS on YouTube, I mean the WTF! I was lucky to go traveling around the world for 18 months when younger backpacking, my lads will do it in 18 minutes online when they’re older.
 
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