COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[FantasyIreland]

So lock up anyone over say 70? Or 60? for months on end so everyone else can carry on regardless? Doesn't seem like a viable plan to me tbh.

Not everyone,those with illness or likely to fall into that category.

 

[Scottyboi]

So lock up anyone over say 70? Or 60? for months on end so everyone else can carry on regardless? Doesn't seem like a viable plan to me tbh.

Neither does locking everyone up and letting the economy flatline.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Neither does locking everyone up and letting the economy flatline.

Basic common sense i thought.

 

[mosssideblue]

Neither does locking everyone up and letting the economy flatline.

I think we can all agree, there is no simple answer

 

[ayrshire_blue]

You cant tell about the scotland one yet because of the lag, you know this !

Glasgow and Lanarkshire have been banned from visiting other households for 6 weeks, cases are still rising in both areas. The lag would have came through a while before now. Of course, there is an argument to suggest that if it weren't for the household ban in place in these areas then the figures could even be much higher than they are now, I don't know.

 

[mosssideblue]

By making possible exposure as slim as possible,whatever that takes.

By vulnerable,i mean those at risk of death.

Bit of a broad brush statement as I believe anyone catching it is at risk of death, are they not?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Not everyone,those with illness or likely to fall into that category.

Likely to fall into the category of being old? ;-)

 

[Healdplace]

Here is an update on the England hospital death numbers after five days for each date over the past four weeks

Wk // Total Cases // Daily Average // Totals with add ons since the five day cut off

14-20 Sep 102 (14.7) 112 (16)

21-27 Sep 170 (24.3) 182 (26)

28 - 4 Oct 254 (36.3) 278 (39.8)

5 -11 Oct 341 (48.8) 356 (50.9)


More than tripled over the three weeks since government was advised to have a circuit breaker.

 

[Scottyboi]

Bit of a broad brush statement as I believe anyone catching it is at risk of death, are they not?

0.1% for alot of people

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

The lockdown needs to happen

As with the Scottish data, the number of deaths in week 40 (ending 2 October was 11 444, which is 591 higher than 5 year average. 343 of them involved Covid, 258 did not. All a lockdown does is make the non-Covid number bigger and kicks the can down the road on the Covid.
As I said earlier, focussing public health on a single issue, isn’t really looking after public health.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Likely to fall into the category of being old?

Nope,many older people are very fit.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Bit of a broad brush statement as I believe anyone catching it is at risk of death, are they not?

That clearly isn't true,as evidence will testify.

Unfortunately we are going to lose weaker members of society,that's inevitable.

 

[kaz7]

As with the Scottish data, the number of deaths in week 40 (ending 2 October was 11 444, which is 591 higher than 5 year average. 343 of them involved Covid, 258 did not. All a lockdown does is make the non-Covid number bigger and kicks the can down the road on the Covid.
As I said earlier, focussing public health on a single issue, isn’t really looking after public health.

I am of the opinion that going into winter covid has to take priority , i am scared about how blaise people are being

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

This week has been an absolute shambles for the government.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

I am of the opinion that going into winter covid has to take priority , i am scared about how blaise people are being

Modesty stops me from commenting...

 

[FantasyIreland]

This week has been an absolute shambles for the government.

This week? Try since March

 

[mosssideblue]

That clearly isn't true,as evidence will testify.

Unfortunately we are going to lose weaker members of society,that's inevitable.

I keep reading on here about the vulnerable, but not many clear definitions as to whom they are.

 

[mosssideblue]

0.1% for alot of people

How many is "a lot"

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Unfortunately we are going to lose weaker members of society,that's inevitable.

Inevitable, you say?

Taiwan COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Taiwan Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

 

[Chippy_boy]

Nope,many older people are very fit.

I sense your frustration mate, and we all have frustration with this in some way or another. However, here is the age distribution of the COVID-19 deaths in the US up until earlier this month. (I couldn't find the UK data to hand, so this will have to do).



So we lock up the 87 year olds. OK. What about those 75 and over? That would not have done anything to prevent the 44,000 deaths of people between 65 and 74. So we lock them up too. There's still another 40,000+ people under 45 who have died of this. That's 20% of the total. You'd probably have to include the 45 and overs if you wanted to make it "safe".

Where do you realistically draw the line?