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Said it before, in my opinion, the section of our society who really need to protect themselves and shield better arent. Wnd its the rest who are paying for it.

i see it on jobs everyday, its the 65+ bracket (Genrally) who dont give me space in their house, who try and shake my hand, who offer me cups of tea, who tell me i dont need to wear a mask, who tell me “its all a load of nonsense”

where as younger clients just say “i’ll get out the way”.
 
kaz7 said:
Imo a national circuit breaker , cut cornwall off and gov can bring back mortage holidays and ask utility firms for payment deferrals ,bring back furlough , doing it by region puts everyone in those areas in trouble money wise , by doing it this way it is creating more problems, no way is easy of course
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Why should those of us who live in areas where we're not being arseholes be made to suffer?
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
It’s not about the money we’ve missed out on from govt, for me. It’s that the govt can’t prove that the hospitality industry are the cause of the rise in cases and hospital admissions and that closing that industry is fucking pointless and will just lead to job losses/business closures.

The gym I attend and the coffee shop I go to (the only places I go to as a person living on their own who isn’t in a bubble) have had ZERO cases! Why are they fucking shutting?

It’s backwards. Close down the places where the cases are worst: eg. schools - have just Year 6, Year 11 and Year 13 every day and alternate other year groups on other days. Heavily fine those who are visiting different homes in restricted areas, emplore neighbours to grass people up for having gatherings at their houses, have Police patrolling the streets... because it’s house-to-house transmission where the problems lie, not my fucking gym!
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We've had 8 positive cases at work (in Oldham) in the last 2 weeks. About 10 percent of staff. Union suggested a 2 week shutdown for a circuit break, but it was refused.
But pubs and other places have to close, even though hospitality infection rates are tiny. Doesn't make sense.
 
jimharri said:
Folks; it's been mentioned plenty of times in the past. If you want to score cheap political points, there's a Covid thread in the politics sub forum.
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Think you should get rid of anything Andy Burnham related on this thread then!
 
Cheesy said:
Why should those of us who live in areas where we're not being arseholes be made to suffer?
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People saying it’s unfair on areas with low numbers of cases if there was a national lockdown. I get that but let’s be fair here - a lot of the high case numbers in the North are in towns and cities with a big university population and a lot of those students have come from other areas of the country (many of them are areas with lower case numbers) and skewed our figures to fuck!
 
M18CTID said:
Joint statement from 5 different pub chains at the weekend stated that of 8 million visits to their 860 pubs (presumably since pubs reopened in early July) across Greater Manchester, the North West, and North Wales there hasn’t been a single case of Covid traced back to any of their pubs!
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You got a source for that? I'd like to share it
 
marcus said:
Said it before, in my opinion, the section of our society who really need to protect themselves and shield better arent. Wnd its the rest who are paying for it.

i see it on jobs everyday, its the 65+ bracket (Genrally) who dont give me space in their house, who try and shake my hand, who offer me cups of tea, who tell me i dont need to wear a mask, who tell me “its all a load of nonsense”

where as younger clients just say “i’ll get out the way”.
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I've found the opposite to be honest mate. The look on the older people's faces when you get closer you can see the fear. Could be my ring tone is the Halloween theme. But seriously both the young and old flout the measures and it doesn't seem to be getting through even after 6 months
 
beehive_bob said:
Nothing in the Johnson briefing so far that has evidenced why hospitality should be a sector that takes a huge hit. Hopefully a question will be raised. If you can't provide the evidence, at least compensate adequately when someone presents you with that evidence. And the Government accuses the City Region of playing politics.

Really hope that Tier 3 does now make a positive difference in terms of reducing infections but just can't see it happening.
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You're asking for evidence. From this government. During the pandemic. Have you been living in a cave?
 
kaz7 said:
Imo a national circuit breaker , cut cornwall off and gov can bring back mortage holidays and ask utility firms for payment deferrals ,bring back furlough , doing it by region puts everyone in those areas in trouble money wise , by doing it this way it is creating more problems, no way is easy of course
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And thats the crux of the matter, its all down to money, the longer they can get away with region by the region the better far as there concerned, let's see what happens when the tory heartlands of the South are faced with tier 2/3, then we,ll see a call for national lockdown and the support it brings wìth it
 
Cheesy said:
Why should those of us who live in areas where we're not being arseholes be made to suffer?
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Because we're all interconnected and we live on a small islland.

Unless you live in the middle of nowhere you will have to come into contact with people - food shopping, school runs, in work, on transport etc. There's also the complicating factors of poverty, small houses and flats and multigeneratuonal houses. All this makes it very, very difficult for some groups of people to isolate for example.

We all know of people of who've followed the letter of the lock down but still got it. You cannot protect yourself from an invisible virus.

And maybe one day it might be people in your area who are unlucky enough to have an outbreak, God forbid.

We really do need to show our countrymen and women some empathy. Other people might not be as lucky as you are.
 
Nellies left peg said:
I've found the opposite to be honest mate. The look on the older people's faces when you get closer you can see the fear. Could be my ring tone is the Halloween theme. But seriously both the young and old flout the measures and it doesn't seem to be getting through even after 6 months
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The young arent great, far from it. But ive honestly found the older ones just dont get it.

i was cleaning a upholstered chair last week and the customer , who i know is 71 and not in great health, sat in the chair next to it doing a fuckin crossword! Told her she’d be better in the other room, but nope, she was fine their, apparently
 
Don’t see the pubs opening again this year

once your in these things you don’t get out

even if Covid cases come down, hospital beds will be full of vunerable people in with other respitatory illnsesses.

It’s crazy to me sacrificing businesses while sending Students to Uni and not telling the vulnerable to shield.
 
marcus said:
The young arent great, far from it. But ive honestly found the older ones just dont get it.

i was cleaning a upholstered chair last week and the customer , who i know is 71 and not in great health, sat in the chair next to it doing a fuckin crossword! Told her she’d be better in the other room, but nope, she was fine their, apparently
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Oldies are scared of being robbed
 
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