COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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pluto said:
NHS staff being actively encouraged to have flu jab. If decline you have to fill in a form stating reason why you are not willing to have it. Not compulsory as you can't make someone have it but really being encouraged
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I think most will have it , they know safety of it wont be compromised
 
The research from the British Medical Association (BMA) also raises concerns about the autumn and winter period - with more than half of healthcare staff saying they are "quite anxious" about what is to come.

More than 6,000 doctors took part in the survey. While 60% said they are worried about their own health, 65% said they are fearful of staff shortages in the coming months.

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Coronavirus: 37% of doctors think the government's three-tier system won't stop COVID-19 spreading

"Doctors think this winter will be the most difficult times of their careers," the British Medical Association says.
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Ages of infections in scotland

160 people aged 65+
36 of whom are 85+

85 children under 15
29 of whom are under 5

219 aged 15-24

839 aged 25-64



The 1 death was in the 75-84 category.
 
N Ireland 3 wks ago v 2 wks v last wk v today

Deaths 0 v 1 v 5 v 8

Cases 462 v 1066 v 1012 v 896

Patients 65 v 137 v 228 v 317

Ventilators 9 v 19 v 23 v 27
 
nellyonthewing said:
Notwithstanding the sad individual tragedies of Covid - cold statistics indicate that world population grows on average every day by 220,000 souls that's each and every day even after subtracting average global daily deaths.
Now taking the average 4000 daily global covid deaths from that - the Population of the Planet still grew by 216,000 people a day even allowing for any under or over counting of covid deaths.
The pandemic has not even put a dint in the real problem we face which is mass over population across the world.
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I half joked a few years ago that we needed something like this to get rid of a couple of billion people.

The world was coping alright with about 5 billion, but 7 billion is too much and projected figures of 9 billion in a few years is ridiculous.

Our carbon footprints are far too large to have anymore than about 5 billion people on this planet.

Take away the human feelings from this and look at the planet, this pandemic hasn’t killed enough people, so we will need to find a different way to reduce the population of the planet.

A big fuck off war would be one way but there must be a better way!
 
England 3 wks ago v 2 wks v last wk v today


Hospital deaths 28 v 32 v 61 v 76

From North West 6 v 14 v 24 v 20
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I half joked a few years ago that we needed something like this to get rid of a couple of billion people.

The world was coping alright with about 5 billion, but 7 billion is too much and projected figures of 9 billion in a few years is ridiculous.

Our carbon footprints are far too large to have anymore than about 5 billion people on this planet.

Take away the human feelings from this and look at the planet, this pandemic hasn’t killed enough people, so we will need to find a different way to reduce the population of the planet.

A big fuck off war would be one way but there must be a better way!
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Wars and plague have always kept population growth in check -now its out of control and in areas that can least support population growth or conversely it destroys and unbalances the natural world. Knocking down the rain forest goes on unchecked to feed an ever growing population. Birth control not food aid and medicine would be better as foreign aid.
 
pluto said:
NHS staff being actively encouraged to have flu jab. If decline you have to fill in a form stating reason why you are not willing to have it. Not compulsory as you can't make someone have it but really being encouraged
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But that isn’t new is it?
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
We will all be in Tier 27 come Christmas time. This will mean that you cannot go out at all unless it is to a Wetherspoons establishment.
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Long before then people will tire of any tier and insist it is 'rite' that they can do as they choose to match the risk level of their own family.

Driven to it by the government creating the umpteenth slogan as bad as that.
 
nellyonthewing said:
Wars and plague have always kept population growth in check -now its out of control and in areas that can least support population growth or conversely it destroys and unbalances the natural world. Knocking down the rain forest goes on unchecked to feed an ever growing population. Birth control not food aid and medicine would be better as foreign aid.
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And that creeping further into the disappearing wilderness will eventually hit us with a real pandemic one day, as we come into too close contact with animals we shouldn’t be.

Something will come along that we have no similar viruses to, that has the contraction rate of measles and the death rate of bird flu.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
i simply dont believe the figures coming out of China, I see no reason to start believing their figures now more than there was 9months ago. They are a truly terrible dictatorship that have and will continue to put their regime and economy ahead of freedom of information and press, human rights of their people, and the sovereign rights of other countries. A country with a long history of missinformation.

Im staggered that in a country that has the above government combined with such low health care standards per capita, typically a tenth or less than that the European average, people believe the nonsense that they have been doing a good job saving lives and keeping the virus in check.

The only developed country in the world to do this aside from New Zealand which is unique in its ability to do so.
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I agree, I just don't think the extent of things there are as bad as here or anywhere else in Europe/US. The only reason why is because the actions they are taking have been fast and have proven to be extremely successful (although in parts brutal).

There is still an argument that prolonging the pandemic is worse than not doing, China have moved to end it ASAP whereas we haven't. Here we are prolonging it because we are unwilling to make short-term sacrifices and as a result only a vaccine will save us. We may as well not bother with track and trace for example because it doesn't work whilst the population has a choice in whether to even use it.

Many medical journals and the WHO agree:


“In China, you have a combination of a population that takes respiratory infections seriously and is willing to adopt non-pharmaceutical interventions, with a government that can put bigger constraints on individual freedoms than would be considered acceptable in most Western countries. Commitment to the greater good is engrained in the culture; there is not the hyper-individualism that characterises parts of the USA, and has driven most of the resistance to the countermeasures against the coronavirus.”
 
Tim of the Oak said:
NHS staff are encouraged to take the flu jab every year. NHS Employers / NHS Confederation have a campaign every year and Trust Chief Execs post pics of getting the jab. I don’t know about signing a form because it’s the norm to get the jab.
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Tim of the Oak said:
NHS staff are encouraged to take the flu jab every year. NHS Employers / NHS Confederation have a campaign every year and Trust Chief Execs post pics of getting the jab. I don’t know about signing a form because it’s the norm to get the jab.
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Does that indicate a possible act of insurance for the employer?
 
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