Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Healdplace said:
Those England hospital deaths should have this thread in shock.

But no comments?

I am horrified.

1012 in England in hospital alone.

Utterly tragic

We will have a giant number of deaths today - maybe over 1500.

Have we become so desensitised to the lives ended by the virus?

Or how we have got to this point?
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Commenting on a post doesn’t bring those people back. We’re not desensitised. There have been people on here today talking about donating plasma, taking part in antibody trials, even just completing the Zoe app every day. All proactive things people can do to help. I’m on a vaccine trial, so is my daughter. I’m booked to give blood next week. I’m taking part in the virus watch antibody testing. These are all things people can do to pay tribute to those who have died.
 
hammocity said:
Yep, hope you've had it asymptotically and are immune. My mate and colleague had his done at an NHS facility on Plymouth Grove, I was sure he'd had it as he had similar symptoms to me but not quite as severe. He was confirmed as having antibodies and is donating plasma for the second time next week, it's a lengthy process, about 3 hours, take your blood, extract the plasma then put your blood back, I can't do because of the medication I take but it's a great cause. Good luck.
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I go to Plymouth Grove. Each donation takes about 45 mins max.
 
Scottyboi said:
Horrible figures today in England alone never mind the UK. NHS staff are suffering from PTSD and turning to the drink bless em.
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I know I had been trying to get that across in here for the past half hour! We seem to be getting too desensitised and this worst ever number today ought to be kicking people up the bum.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Why are people saying the Wales figures are bad?

100,000+ is >3% of the population - I think the UK figure is ~4%. Doesn't seem so different? Do i have something wrong?
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Because the proportion of the population in Wales receiving a vaccination has been consistently lower than for the other three countries and (a few days ago at least) it was falling further behind.
 
Healdplace said:
I know I had been trying to get that across in here for the past half hour! We seem to be getting too desensitised and this worst ever number today ought to be kicking people up the bum.
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Not sure what more you want people to say or do. It's awful, beyond awful, everyone on here agrees and is isolating and doing there bit.
 
Healdplace said:
Those England hospital deaths should have this thread in shock.

But no comments?

I am horrified.

1012 in England in hospital alone.

Utterly tragic

We will have a giant number of deaths today - maybe over 1500.

Have we become so desensitised to the lives ended by the virus?

Or how we have got to this point?
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The truth is, and I mean this in the nicest and most complimentary way, you have brought us to this point. Those of us who avidly follow your daily figures and have done for many months already know where the figures are going. Can we really be shocked by something we have known is coming for days if not weeks? It is utterly appalling and devastatingly sad but the amazing job you do on here on a daily basis means that we can't be shocked. It isn't a surprise, these deaths have not suddenly sprung up from nowhere.
 
Healdplace said:
Those England hospital deaths should have this thread in shock.

But no comments?

I am horrified.

1012 in England in hospital alone.

Utterly tragic

We will have a giant number of deaths today - maybe over 1500.

Have we become so desensitised to the lives ended by the virus?

Or how we have got to this point?
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Terrible but as you say people becoming ambivalent and desensitised from it, it's probably on a par with Irish fatalities during the troubles in the 60's and 70's where we just accepted it as part of life, or even Vietnam where it was obviously worse. It hits home when you know someone who has passed with this horrible virus.

As an aside you info is a constant accurate source reminding everyone of the dangers, I really think you help the "keep safe" issue with these updates.
 
Bluemoon dan said:
The truth is, and I mean this in the nicest and most complimentary way, you have brought us to this point. Those of us who avidly follow your daily figures and have done for many months already know where the figures are going. Can we really be shocked by something we have known is coming for days if not weeks? It is utterly appalling and devastatingly sad but the amazing job you do on here on a daily basis means that we can't be shocked. It isn't a surprise, these deaths have not suddenly sprung up from nowhere.
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This post has nailed it @Healdplace most of us on here hopefully haven't got our heads in the sand and with your breakdowns/input it was sadly always going to happen.
 
My point was not specific to this thread but in general.


I am rarely shocked by numbers and knew we would top 1000 a day soon but even I was stunned by the very rapid increase in England hospital deaths since Christmas.

Kaz will no doubt be along later to comment on the 1500 or so final record number we get today.

But I just wish these numbers could be the kick up the bum society needs to really see what is going on here. And how every individual act has contributed to this.

But I fear that they too will just see this as another number - a statistic. Not people.

It is easy to get that way and I understand why. We do have to distance ourselves to stay sane I guess.
 
artfuldodger said:
Commenting on a post doesn’t bring those people back. We’re not desensitised. There have been people on here today talking about donating plasma, taking part in antibody trials, even just completing the Zoe app every day. All proactive things people can do to help. I’m on a vaccine trial, so is my daughter. I’m booked to give blood next week. I’m taking part in the virus watch antibody testing. These are all things people can do to pay tribute to those who have died.
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Sadly it looks to me as though the nation is split into various factions, those who are appalled at the deaths and take this seriously, those who pay lip service but think it will never happen to them and finally the deniers who basically are wankers .
 
Healdplace said:
My point was not specific to this thread but in general.


I am rarely shocked by numbers and knew we would top 1000 a day soon but even I was stunned by the very rapid increase in England hospital deaths since Christmas.

Kaz will no doubt be along later to comment on the 1500 or so final record number we get today.

But I just wish these numbers could be the kick up the bum society needs to really see what is going on here. And how every individual act has contributed to this.

But I fear that they too will just see this as another number - a statistic. Not people.

It is easy to get that way and I understand why. We do have to distance ourselves to stay sane I guess.
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What I find incredibly frustrating, enraging even, is that it was obvious three weeks ago that exactly this would happen, and nothing was done about it (except in London).
 
What did you do today to help? What did you sacrifice?

When will people look after each other and stop making excuses?

There is a state of total denial.
 
By the way I found the data for the week before Christmas of the more specific age ranges of the hospital deaths in England and Wales from Covid.

They seem pretty similar each week up to then.

There were 2986 in total that week.

736 aged over 90

609 aged 85 - 89

544 aged 80 - 84

388 aged 75 - 79

252 aged 70 - 74

177 aged 65 - 69

119 aged 60 - 64

75 aged 55 - 59

43 aged 50 - 54

26 aged 45 - 49

10 aged 40 - 44

There were single figures for all the lower age ranges.

This gives some indication of why the 20 year bands are too wide to check on how vaccinations impact the numbers as we hope they will.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
What I find incredibly frustrating, enraging even, is that it was obvious three weeks ago that exactly this would happen, and nothing was done about it (except in London).
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I agree. I think I was just expressing my frustration that this thread saw this coming for weeks and the nation just sat and watched as nothing happened as if it was just inevitable.

It felt as if the decision was it was easier to remind we should just be careful out there like in Hill Street Blues without mentioning the rapists, maniacs, gunmen they might encounter as that was a given every day.

As a society we have been led into just being frustrated and fed up and aware on some level this is a terrible disease but it likely is not going to impact on ourselves so we can just inch by inch take steps that tread across the boundaries and turn them into yards and miles as time goes by.

Maybe that is just what people have to do when an apocalypse looms - hope for the best and assume there is not much we can do to stop it anyway and hope Bruce Willis is ready to save the day.

Perhaps that is where we are. In the hands of fate as no leader could have done a thing about this.

And the more you know about the data and question if that is actually true the harder it is to accept what looks like sleepwalking towards the edge of a cliff and watching it happen.

So I apologise if it looked like I was blaming those on here. I wasn't really.

Sometimes it perhaps is wise not to know what is coming as when you do there lies the path to madness.
 
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