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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
ScottSinclair said:
Respect to Milner

(will probably play for Leeds next season amyway but we need everyone speaking out about it)
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MCFC1993 said:
Fair play to Patrick Bamford and in particular James Milner for saying it as it is. They don't want it.

Tonights game felt like nothing, it meant nothing.
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Ugh. Agreeing with Milner
 
QuinnDiscoPants said:
Its all about the insidious Americans. It started with Murdoch and the Sky deal (and it will ultimately end with him deciding the future of football based on what Sky do). Then came the Russians, Thais and Middle East sovereign states, who bloated the fatted calf. But the current game changer are the Americans: Glazers, Kroenke, FSG and our own Silver Lake. At least the oligarchs and Sheiks have always pretended to care about the game - not true at all of the Americans - they only see soccer as a cash machine - after loading their clubs up with debt, they were always playing a long game - and this is it - a NFL 'light'. I can promise you if this happens, in the next decade - a 'franchise' like City will move to London, or the South of France. They simply don't care. Its never been about the fans - its about the pay-per-view subscriber, and this season, with fake crowd noise and empty stadiums has taught them the show can go on. The great tragedy here, is that the there are no 'good guys' - FIFA, UEFA and FA are either cabals of corruption or utterly hopeless. For me, if this happens - which is allegedly very likely - its the end of football for me. It is not about being a nostalgic dinosaur, or standing in the way of change. Its about the essence of what football is. Which is about live, real and emotional engagement - its about being in the moment - and it makes no difference, as a City fan, if its Dickov's goal in extra time at Wembley in the second division playoff final or Sergio's winner to clinch the title a decade ago. Same emotion - same commitment - same passion. From 'tunnel clubs', to VAR, to the fact that over the past year, if you wanted to follow your club, you were forced to pay for Sky, BTSport, Amazon Prime - we are now more than ever, football 'consumers', not football fans. Another step into the 'NFLism' of football. RIP Football.
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Good post. It's not RIP football though. That went with Sky.
 
If the premiership or FA, can have any say in fixtures when this super league starts, they could give those clubs involved with Monday night fixtures or Friday night fixtures, what with the additional travel for those players playing on a Wednesday night that would potentially f%%k up the clubs.?
 
Tricky_Trev said:
City were finished either way as one of the top 2 or 3 most attractive clubs in the world. But they should have chose the option that saw us still have some “legacy fans” at the end of it all. We will probably receive half the money that the history clubs get and will face rules and regulations designed to impact us more than the others. Everything will have an element of past success weighting. We will be financially better off than if we didn’t join the ESL but we will be relative minnows within it. I’d rather be a relative minnow outside if it and keep our integrity. We were fucked either way, but they chose to fuck the fans too.
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A lot of speculation here. Our club bosses are not naive.

The fans will be fucked also watching rags and dippers attracting much better players, the likes of Haaland and Mbappe, but also the best English players, perhaps even Foden. Anybody thinking world class talents will prefer to play derbies with Wolves and Leeds instead of Barca and Madrid is wildly optimistic.

The globalisation of football has made some excellent leagues, e.g. Brazil, Argentina, Netherlands, Portugal etc., unattractive at the expense of the PL, La Liga and Serie A. The next step will be at the expense of these very leagues and it is largely inevitable.

Is it good for football and fans? There's no simple answer to that question. For some it will be good, for others it will be bad. Gobalisation can't be stopped anyway. The best that can be done is to find some balance between the global and the local aspects of football, the global and the local communities of fans. Some working decision will be found ultimately. The big and the non-big clubs need each other.
 
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