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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
Just thinking about how the effect on the PL might pan out. Seem to be two possible scenarios at the moment- either the six get kicked out of the PL or they stay. If the former then presumably they get replaced from the Championship which on current standings would be Brentford, Bournemouth, Barnsley, Reading, Cardiff andMillwall. No disrespect to those clubs, but this would devalue the PL to the level of say the Belgian or Dutch leagues. For the PL the commercial implications of this scarcely bear thinking about so I don't see it happening.

If the six continue in the PL then as another poster has said they will mainly play their squad players as there is no incentive (eg top four and CL entry)for them to do otherwise, and plenty of disincentive (injury to star players). You might see the odd star player getting a run-out after injury for game time but that would be about it. And as the six will have more dosh than the others put together then we can expect to see their dominance in attracting the best squad players and positions in the PL.

Either way, the future for the PL does not look bright.

Incidentally , on the international front, if players from the six are banned these competitions are similarly devalued so I can't see that happening either, even if it's legal to ban them. Also banning them immediately drags players from countries outside Europe into this morasse.

What a bloody mess.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Let's be honest, they would have been offered a spot and accepted if either us or Chelsea had refused. Money talks and football clubs are not charities. Social responsibility my arse.
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When ITV offered then £0.5m in the late 80s they were all over it, not arsed it was just for the 'big 5'.

People's club.
 
brazilians hurt said:
Different tone to their press release about the postponement of our game with them following our COVID outbreak where the couldn’t even find the good grace to wish us a speedy recovery. Self interested twats spinning their own message
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Yet they're the ones the public and football is supporting whilst our own club is beign vilified. Whose message is the more positive one?
 
Chippy_boy said:
You don't change that overnight, agreed. But you do get to change it.

Liverpool have their global fan base because of their CL and 1st Division dominance in the 1980's and 1990's and kids watched that, became Liverpool fans, had kids who were then also Liverpool fans.

It takes generations to build up that sort of fan base, but also in generations it can change. Our fanbase globally is growing exponentially, and I have absolutely ZERO doubt that in time, we would be a "bigger" club than Liverpool, and probably bigger than Real or Barca. That's where we were headed and absolutely I am sure the SL founding clubs are shit scared of that.

Dwindling revenues, huge debts, can't buy the best players any more, don't win the CL every other year. And City and PSG keep winning it and picking up more and more fans. They can see the writing on the wall and it scares them.
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Great points!
 
red 2 hats said:
Just seen Infantinos press conference, he said FIFA is built on fairness, equality and honesty. The same organisation that's been found guilty of back handers, corruption and giving world cups to Russia and Qatar.
Whether it be this new shit show super league, eufa, fifa and all, it's all about getting there greedy paws as deep into the pot as possible.
The only people who show any loyalty and integrity are us fans, who continue to get fleeced by the parasites at the top of the tree
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Their hypocrisy is off the scale whilst their self awareness is zero
 
European Cup---Champions League---Super League

In a sense, it's a logical development in a globalising world. The key to the economic reality of football is that the match-goers are becoming far less important than the match-watchers.

Football can't stay the same in the era of global audiences, internet, smartphones, etc.

The ESL is the end of football as we know it from its CL and PL era. But football existed before the PL and the CL and will exist after them. It won't die. It will lose some fans and win new fans.

Many fans, particularly older ones, may refuse to watch the ESL. That's perfectly fine. People will have the choice to follow local teams playing in lower divisions. The transformation that is happening is that the big clubs are more global than local, and this is an irreversible tendency. It can't be stopped. Look at City: the owners are not even European, the club bosses are not even British, the same with the manager and most stars in the team.

It's important to take care of the local fans and roots of the big clubs. It's up to club bosses to find solutions to the contradictions emerging between the global aspirations of the clubs and the local aspects of their existence, especially the local communities of fans who have made the existence and the history of the clubs possible in the first place. Such solutions will be sought and found. They won't be acceptable for some fans, but they will be probably acceptable for the global audiences which enable the growth of the big clubs.
 
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Cityzen_89 said:
After a day of being absolutely disgusted yesterday I have come into work today and as you could guess. This is all the hot topic. As far as I'm concerened the City I knew is dead to me, or is it? I got chatting to my boss who is in his late 50's and a City fan and he said as follows. "Take the owners out, would you still say that". It really got me thinking when put so bluntly and I'll be honest, no, I wouldn't. My club, the history it achieved still exists. The club who came to see me when I'd had my Kidney transplant. The club who won the title the day after my nanna died. They still exist. All be it in name and colour only right now. The players and Pep are in a very tough position and maybe we should support them. Let me make this clear though, our owners need to fuck off. I just don't know, my emotions are so conflicted. It really is like getting a divorce but you still love your ex.
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Owners are temporary. The club will prevail and stay in the hearts of every city supporter. Bad times come in different forms. This is one that will pass.
personally up until now I trusted our owners and will wait until this plays out to see if I need to reassess that trust.
 
City wont be catching Liverpool or anyone globally in this league as we will be just making up the numbers. Perez just basically confirmed it indirectly by slagging us off in his interview.

That will put red shites ahead of us in the PL too.

and there are still some City fans supporting this abomination, basically wanting City to be these clubs bitch like Dortmund is to Bayern.
 
HorlocksWalk said:
Same here, seems strange to see page after page of how we should stay with EUFA, the same EUFA we boo before every CL game?
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What a stupid comment.

The reason that the UEFA anthem is booed is because they have allowed themselves to be manipulated by the likes of Gill, Parry, and other placemen acting in the interests of Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Juventus, etc.

So jump in with the usual suspects to a closed shop (novelty freak show) league with five other teams ‘invited’ each year on some unspecified basis.

Anyone who thing that the Manchester City franchise will continue to play in Manchester long term is in a dream world. Does anyone think that there will be two teams left in Manchester (out of 20) beyond the early seasons?

I will be franchise territory and that franchise can be sold anywhere in the world.

I will be out if this Super League starts including City.
 
Manchester_lalala said:
What’s the issue with number two? He’s got every right to invest in Salford.
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Mëtal Bikër said:
Yes.

Nobody in 1993 would have said Villa would ever be relegated, but it happened. They were once of the '6' but the '6' changes. Spurs and Arsenal are falling away rapidly. City and Chelsea were never once part of that same top group. This is aboput preserving the status of the G14 and you're happy to back them up, to be part of it, after years of slagging those clubs off, when City struggled?

You should take back every criticism you ever made of the Rags. You're practically a Rag yourself at this point, supporting this shit.
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Great post
 
City Man said:
Just thinking about how the effect on the PL might pan out. Seem to be two possible scenarios at the moment- either the six get kicked out of the PL or they stay. If the former then presumably they get replaced from the Championship which on current standings would be Brentford, Bournemouth, Barnsley, Reading, Cardiff andMillwall. No disrespect to those clubs, but this would devalue the PL to the level of say the Belgian or Dutch leagues. For the PL the commercial implications of this scarcely bear thinking about so I don't see it happening.

If the six continue in the PL then as another poster has said they will mainly play their squad players as there is no incentive (eg top four and CL entry)for them to do otherwise, and plenty of disincentive (injury to star players). You might see the odd star player getting a run-out after injury for game time but that would be about it. And as the six will have more dosh than the others put together then we can expect to see their dominance in attracting the best squad players and positions in the PL.

Either way, the future for the PL does not look bright.

Incidentally , on the international front, if players from the six are banned these competitions are similarly devalued so I can't see that happening either, even if it's legal to ban them. Also banning them immediately drags players from countries outside Europe into this morasse.

What a bloody mess.
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Well I would have thought if they had spaces to fill they would first spare the relegated teams. So we get to keep the magic of West Brom, Fulham and Sheffield Utd over Reading, Cardiff and Millwall :)

It will be weird seeing the new top 4 goal being 7th-10th.
 
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