Shamima Begum

carlosthejackal said:
As far as I can work out she was born here and therefore a British citizen so should stand trial here , don’t see as a country how we can expect other countries to accept their citizens when we deport them but won’t accept one of our own .
Click to expand...
I am in the camp of - fuck her

And was her citizenship not revoked?

Anyway - fuck her.

You make your bed.......- absolutely zero care or sympathy from me
 
Last edited:
west didsblue said:
That would be the ideal solution, but unfortunately in spite of the posturing by our government, international law will mean she'll end up back here and there'll be little anyone can do about it.
Click to expand...
So let's delay the inevitable as long as possible
 
Last edited:
Personally I'm very much towards the left politically, but I don't really understand the uproar here. Nations should be strongly discouraged from making anyone stateless. However, the British government can only act for itself.... Its not and never should be within it's power to determine what actions the Bangladesh authorities might or might not take, thus Britain revoking her citizenship, doesn't make her stateless, because she has another option, conversely Bangladesh not approving her request for citizenship also doesn't make her stateless because they can't determine what the UK would do. Yes it sucks to be Ms Begum, but sometimes life isn't fair, especially in a war zone, the sad part for me is you see all the suffering there if she had done nothing.... she would have not added to it.
 
Seen her on Good morning Britain,why was she constantly touching her upper lip all the time,also hope this isn’t a PR exercise to gain sympathy and hope for her possible return to England,she made her bed she can lie in it ..
 
She hates this country and everything it stands for, why the fuck would she want to force her way into here. Oh hang on its a million times better than the shithole she's in now and pleading to get back in well fuck her let her rot where she is before her aim of turning Britain into the same shitholes achieved.
Anyhow I've got a football game to attend I'll not give the scum bag a second thought.
 
Whereabouts is she in Syria?
The Kurds in the north have started deporting women in their camps that they do not have enough evidence to prosecute. Three arrived back in Sweden last week via Turkey. Thinking that Begum is going to be left in Syria for ever is unrealistic - because the Syrians don't want her and she isn't Syrian.
 
Last edited:
blueish swede said:
Whereabouts is she in Syria?
The Kurds in the north have started deporting women in their camps that they do not have enough evidence to prosecute. Three arrived back in Sweden last week via Turkey. Thinking that Begum is going to be left in Syria for ever is unralistic - because the Syrians don't want her and she isn't Syrian.
Click to expand...

UK is where she will probably end up as she was born here. There isn’t anywhere else that I am aware of.
 
The government shouldn’t render British citizens stateless.

Everybody deserves to stand trial, innocent until proven guilty, in front of a jury of their peers.

We should as a society look to rehabilitate and give people another chance, if they are alive to have finished their sentence after being found guilty by the aforementioned jury and sentenced by a judge.

Why should other nations take her because we don’t want to follow process?

My emotional side thinks sod her and let her rot but the law and due process must be followed.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
anyway, she's under such hardship that she managed to get her hair done and an outfit sorted. At the same time there are many innocent Afghanis stuck about to meet a terrible fate who are far more deserving of help.
Click to expand...

She's not claiming asylum so what you are talking about is irrelevant. She's our problem, she grew up in the UK and we should take her back and she can be prosecuted for her membership of Islamic State.

She isn't a serious threat to the UK, just a red tops constructed public hate figure without much intelligence who said some silly things.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
She's not claiming asylum so what you are talking about is irrelevant. She's our problem, she grew up in the UK and we should take her back and she can be prosecuted for her membership of Islamic State.

She isn't a serious threat to the UK, just a red tops constructed public hate figure without much intelligence who said some silly things.
Click to expand...
Silly things ? Ffs
 
Fode N The Hole said:
She's not claiming asylum so what you are talking about is irrelevant. She's our problem, she grew up in the UK and we should take her back and she can be prosecuted for her membership of Islamic State.

She isn't a serious threat to the UK, just a red tops constructed public hate figure without much intelligence who said some silly things.
Click to expand...
you are apologising for Shamima Begum.

She's her problem.
 
kaz7 said:
Silly things ? Ffs
Click to expand...

Yes from her point of view it was a silly thing to say as it made her situation worse. It's also been discussed previously that such words may have been under duress of the circumstances she was in, saying things to appear loyal to IS under the fear of reprisals.

That isn't to downplay the gravity of the attack.

But as far as I know what she said isn't a crime, if it is then it is incitement and the argument that we don't have evidence to convict her falls apart.

But Anjem Choudary said abhorrent things for many years, it was only when he declared loyalty to ISIS were we able to lock him up.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
you are apologising for Shamima Begum.

She's her problem.
Click to expand...

Perhaps she can try, convict and imprison herself.

I've said we should lock her up for any crimes we can convict her of. That's some apologism.

We take back British born paedophiles who have done wicked crimes overseas and represent a far greater risk and cost of locking up and keeping the public safe. But we do it because it's our responsibility to do so.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
Perhaps she can try, convict and imprison herself.

I've said we should lock her up for any crimes we can convict her of. That's some apologism.

We take back British born paedophiles who have done wicked crimes overseas and represent a far greater risk and cost of locking up and keeping the public safe. But we do it because it's our responsibility to do so.
Click to expand...

There's an idea. She was so fond of the death penalty in the Caliphate so maybe she can bring that back in her own court case too.
 
It's madness to think she can go anywhere else. It's impossible a waste everyone's time and money. Your own country has to take you back if no one wants you. Some very bad criminals have came back here after sentences or whatever else It's how it works we cannot just make someone invisible or not be there, it's impossible no one else wants her so we have to take her. Shes born here she british same would happen for anyone else who is British.
 
kaz7 said:
Till she takes back what she said about the manchester bombings she can go fuck herself
Click to expand...

Seems she kinda half did that already.

Shamima Begum apologises for saying Manchester Arena bombing was 'justified' and asks for forgiveness on GMB - Manchester Evening News

I think comments she made, potentially under duress, should be the least of our worries.
We need to find out if she was complicit in terrorist actions, and so we need to bring her back and get her on trial in the UK.

She's been made an example of, but now is the time to follow due legal processes.

Leaving a British citizen stateless doesn't sit right with me, even if said person has been involved in potentially awful things. We can't pick and choose which laws we should follow.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top