Queen Elizabeth II

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I live in England yet haven't watched any of it, it takes a particularly stupid person to tune in from say South Africa and get miffed by it ;)

So why comment?

 

[mexico1970]

So why comment?

Why comment on an opinion from a South African who went out of their way to see something 1000's of miles away? He is that stupid he thought it was brainwashing him even though he made it his purpose to watch it.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Why comment on an opinion from a South African who went out of their way to see something 1000's of miles away? He is that stupid he thought it was brainwashing him even though he made it his purpose to watch it.

Royalism is pretty weird as a concept though, no?

They've had issues of inequality way below royal level for a while.

 

[mexico1970]

Royalism is pretty weird as a concept though, no?

They've had issues of inequality way below royal level for a while.

There are royals in South Africa, are they any different?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

There are royals in South Africa, are they any different?

Dunno, I struggle to understand our lot.

I thought they were part of the commonwealth though?

 

[Ja Salford Blue]

Watching the news last night.Even Mike Tindall has a chest full of medals,it really is quite pathetic how the royals bestow honours upon each other.Fucking Edward looks like he’s fought in every conflict since the napoleonic wars with all the shit on his chest including his it’s a knockout winner’s medal

My cousin who has never been in the Armed Forces wears his dads medals (who died in Iraq) at the Cenotaph every year.

is that really quite pathetic?

 

[Ja Salford Blue]

So how many totally for the time people have been allowed to bow to a possible empty box or a very well mumified queen?

I am guessing less than 1% of the population, once you factor in tourists too, maybe the beeb could stop acting like we have all stopped our lives for a week.


And this isn't an anti queen post, god bless her, but some of the live coverage is borderline banana republic propoganda levels

Hope he got pummelled when they got him behind that wall.

i'm sure he would have pal!

 

[Ja Salford Blue]

This is getting beyond a joke now operations cancelled schools shut other funerals being cancelled etc etc in fact it’s scandalous hurry up and bury the fucker so we can get back to normal life

Show some respect!

I thought hooligans like you liked the Queen?

 

[Bill Walker]

I am non a Royalist but always respected her for what she did , in my life time the only slight error she made was with Diana's death and she learnt quickly from that, always the sign of a smart and intelligent person.

I thought the Aberfan disaster was also a serious misjudgment.

On the whole though, even though I'm a Republican she was excellent in the role.

 

[Vic]

He is South African who is telling him to mourn? Nice little speech but irrelevant really, is his own country televising the proceedings?

We have got Irish people on this site annoyed that the BBC is showing the whole affair, all they have to do is not tune in.

What "news" was there yesterday that made Match of the Day 20 minutes late? News now would be an interview with someone not in The Queue.

 

[Vic]

I just replied to a message on here, I didn't start the conversation off. It's just so stupid watching something you don't like and then claim that it's oppressing you.

I think you can watch it, admire the Queen, recognise a life of service but realise she's not the only one and that others do it without the privilege, and realise that some of that privilege and wealth (hers and the UK's) is ill-gotten, and that for nations whose resources (material and human) were exploited you can't expect them to join in universal approbation.

 

[Vic]

So why comment?

Getting miffed by others' getting miffed. Exactly what was being said in the piece by Trevor Noah.

 

[oldius]

I struggle with the levels of grief that are being shown, and the scale of coverage: I simply do not understand grief for someone most have never met, nor do I know why so many state, categorically, that she did an amazing job - I don't see it. I respect that her family members will feel deep sorrow, but that is it.

 

[Vic]

My cousin who has never been in the Armed Forces wears his dads medals (who died in Iraq) at the Cenotaph every year.

is that really quite pathetic?

It might be if it makes it appear to be his medals.

"War medals and service decorations of any sort may be worn only by the person upon whom they were conferred, and in no case does the right to wear war or service medals, or their ribbons, pass to any relative when the recipient is dead. Modifications of the above rule are permitted in connection with Remembrance Day, when relatives who desire to avail themselves, on those days only, of the distinction of wearing the decoration and medals of deceased relatives, they may do so, wearing them ON THE RIGHT BREAST." https://www.britisharmedforces.org/other/other_faq.htm#faq3

 

[balotellishaircut]

Dunno, I struggle to understand our lot.

I thought they were part of the commonwealth though?

South Africa is part of the commonwealth they rejoined in 1994, and took part in the games in Birmingham recently

 

[1961_vintage]

I struggle with the levels of grief that are being shown

With the obvious exception of some direct family members, what I have seen is a million miles away from genuine grief.

 

[carlosthejackal]

 

[Vic]

With the obvious exception of some direct family members, what I have seen is a million miles away from genuine grief.

I've not "seen" much grief from direct family members. But then it's possible to get through the days till the funeral without it hitting you. And few bereaved people have millions watching for a tear. Given the mental health issues of bereavement that William and Harry have been open about, I'm really not sure that any of this is good for them. The idea that we're doing this just to show how good we are at ceremonial stuff is quite odd.

 

[Postman Pep]

Peak level performative grief

 

[1961_vintage]

Peak level performative grief

Beautifully crafted that - the voice of the nations.