Etihad Atmosphere - 2022/23

[Dodgy Gangster]

there aren't much positive things to say about our home support today comments on an Etihad atmosphere thread are going to be negative.

Agreed. But some comments cross the line from having a justified moan to unnecessary and over the top abuse of our fans and his I think was one of those.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Nothing new or remotely unusual about fans leaving early, back in the 70s i would stand in the Kippax and refuse to look at my watch if we were winning. I would be pleased when I started to see people trooping down the Platt Lane steps as I realised it was getting near the end. Ten minutes to go the trickle became a flood as scores of folk disappeared down the corner tunnel. Maine Rd was much further out of town than the Etihad but I always stayed to the end and enjoyed the walk back to town. The early leavers didn't spoil my day each to their own.

Not sure I agree with that. Yes people have always left early, but not in these numbers. It doesn’t happen in champions league games or cup games as much either.

I remember under Mancini lots of the ground staying until the end in lots of games. going a bit further back most of the ground singing ‘distin what’s the score’ against Portsmouth - at the final whistle. This change has been over the last few years.

 

[Charlesfarsbar]

There must be a decent majority that only see about 75-80 minutes of football every week

arrive at just on the whistle for the first half

miss the last 5 minutes for a pint of average beer at halftime

leave on 80 minutes to get back home for strictly or something much more important the cheering the lads

for the vast majority of games we’ve got the well deserved reputation as being the worst home support in the premier league

and some on here are trying to defend that

 

[Northerndave]

I missed my first game of the deason yesterday due to having a ticket for the Rugby League at the Unibol yesterday (game took 80 minutes and then took 110 minutes to get off the car park - I wish I had left earlier).

Every season we have a game or two with little atmosphere and it always amazes me the level of bile and vitriol spouted on here. It happens and it depends on what's happening on the pitch and the opposition.

Firstly by the ultra mob who seem to think megaphones, organised sing songs and drum bashings make an 'atmoshphere'.

Secondly the anti leavers brigade, who seem to think that it makes you less of a fan if you do that.

Now over the years, I have mellowed from hating those who leave early to trying to understand. For me, having a drink with friends is a big part of the day, so I leave 5 mins before half-time to get a drink in. If City could pull their fingers out of their arse then there would be no need to do so. Blame the club for it's piss poor organisation, not the fans who merely fancy a pie and a pint.

Also, not everyone lives round the corner from the ground. I only live 8 miles away. 99% of games when I clap the players off, then walk down from EL3, to the Metro and home it can take 1hr 45 minutes to get home. If I left at 80 mins, I'd save an hour. If the game as a spectacle is over at 80 mins, then yeah, I understand why you would.The problem we have is the transport infrastructure is also not fit for purpose.

It's the ones who leave when we are in the middle of a comeback I don't get !

Anyway, chill out, if people want to leave early, so be it, if they want a pint, so be it, we all support in our own ways.

 

[Jazzyblue]

It isn’t the middle class or the matchday fans leaving early they are nearly all regulars.

I think some of the things we are worrying about are a natural consequence of having quite a mature fanbase, and I don't mean that with any disrespect. The people I see leaving early and not singing might well have going every single week since Big Mal was in charge. It's not prawn sandwiches or tourists, who are a tiny minority at City games in reality, just long time matchgoers who are set in their ways when it comes to wanting to beat the traffic and are past having a sing song. Yesterday's atmosphere during the game was poorest I've seen in a while though.

It was great on the tram in, with everything thing from Niall Quinn's Disco Pants to Who the F are Man United sung, the usual nice vibes on the concourse and chats with fellow Blues in the ground and on the way in and out that make for a good matchday, but in terms of singing and shouting through the game it was the flattest I'd seen it in a while. Every chance it's just coming off the back of Liverpool, but if yesterday was a sign of a worsening trend maybe it is time City Matters or 1894 worked out some kind of plan for dispersing the noise around the ground and bringing people out of their shells. Personally I quite like our Manc matchday playlists so don't think they need to go. But if smaller teams keep coming and out-singing us we should confront it. If anyone is reading this from the club, an atmosphere survey might be useful.

 

[jrb]

There must be a decent majority that only see about 75-80 minutes of football every week

arrive at just on the whistle for the first half

miss the last 5 minutes for a pint of average beer at halftime

leave on 80 minutes to get back home for strictly or something much more important the cheering the lads

for the vast majority of games we’ve got the well deserved reputation as being the worst home support in the premier league

and some on here are trying to defend that

I honestly don't think we've got the reputation as the worst home support in the PL.

Maybe the Scousers think that, but other PL fans, not a chance.

 

[citymad]

I think some of the things we are worrying about are a natural consequence of having quite a mature fanbase, and I don't mean that with any disrespect. The people I see leaving early and not singing might well have going every single week since Big Mal was in charge. It's not prawn sandwiches or tourists, who are a tiny minority at City games in reality, just long time matchgoers who are set in their ways when it comes to wanting to beat the traffic and are past having a sing song. Yesterday's atmosphere during the game was poorest I've seen in a while though.

It was great on the tram in, with everything thing from Niall Quinn's Disco Pants to Who the F are Man United sung, the usual nice vibes on the concourse and chats with fellow Blues in the ground and on the way in and out that make for a good matchday, but in terms of singing and shouting through the game it was the flattest I'd seen it in a while. Every chance it's just coming off the back of Liverpool, but if yesterday was a sign of a worsening trend maybe it is time City Matters or 1894 worked out some kind of plan for dispersing the noise around the ground and bringing people out of their shells. Personally I quite like our Manc matchday playlists so don't think they need to go. But if smaller teams keep coming and out-singing us we should confront it. If anyone is reading this from the club, an atmosphere survey might be useful.

Good post. Not sure the Liverpool game was a reason. Teams with good support would rally and push the team on the next game. As for the EL, while we can’t do much about the transport issues we do have a choice and a control on how we feel and act.

 

[mexico1970]

I honestly don't think we've got the reputation as the worst home support in the PL.

Maybe the Scousers think that, but other PL fans, not a chance.

I sniffed when I read that post you quoted mate ;)

 

[Beaker]

I honestly don't think we've got the reputation as the worst home support in the PL.

Maybe the Scousers think that, but other PL fans, not a chance.

The guy you quoted is obviously talking nonsense but the Scousers can go and swivel. For games that don’t get their juices flowing there is no flatter atmosphere than Anfield in the Premier League. Rather than threads like this, they just pat each other on the back and discuss how wonderful they all are.

 

[jrb]

I missed my first game of the deason yesterday due to having a ticket for the Rugby League at the Unibol yesterday (game took 80 minutes and then took 110 minutes to get off the car park - I wish I had left earlier).

Every season we have a game or two with little atmosphere and it always amazes me the level of bile and vitriol spouted on here. It happens and it depends on what's happening on the pitch and the opposition.

Firstly by the ultra mob who seem to think megaphones, organised sing songs and drum bashings make an 'atmoshphere'.

Secondly the anti leavers brigade, who seem to think that it makes you less of a fan if you do that.

Now over the years, I have mellowed from hating those who leave early to trying to understand. For me, having a drink with friends is a big part of the day, so I leave 5 mins before half-time to get a drink in. If City could pull their fingers out of their arse then there would be no need to do so. Blame the club for it's piss poor organisation, not the fans who merely fancy a pie and a pint.

Also, not everyone lives round the corner from the ground. I only live 8 miles away. 99% of games when I clap the players off, then walk down from EL3, to the Metro and home it can take 1hr 45 minutes to get home. If I left at 80 mins, I'd save an hour. If the game as a spectacle is over at 80 mins, then yeah, I understand why you would.The problem we have is the transport infrastructure is also not fit for purpose.

It's the ones who leave when we are in the middle of a comeback I don't get !

Anyway, chill out, if people want to leave early, so be it, if they want a pint, so be it, we all support in our own ways.

Firstly by the 'ultra mob'.

Do a me favour Dave.

Ultra mob. LoL!

 

[paulchapo]

There's a few iffy fuckers in this thread, my bullshit radar is going off the scale.

 

[Dodgy Gangster]

Remember those email surveys City used to send out every week? Maybe they should send out another email asking why so many fans are leaving early. If nothing else it would at shed some light on why it’s happening.

If you leave early I imagine it would be to spend hours trawling through YouTube for (out of context) videos of European ultras to post to negatively compare City fans to or to study your own personal CCTV footage of Anfield to corroborate your comment that to a man everybody in anfield stays to the end of every game.

But it’s not true is it so why say it ?

 

[Elliot houghton]

Agreed. But some comments cross the line from having a justified moan to unnecessary and over the top abuse of our fans and his I think was one of those.

It's right though some of the stuff saying even though some may think its harsh

 

[jrb]

The guy you quoted is obviously talking nonsense but the Scousers can go and swivel. For games that don’t get their juices flowing there is no flatter atmosphere than Anfield in the Premier League. Rather than threads like this, they just pat each other on the back and discuss how wonderful they all are.

It was about staying until the end.

But if you want a players honest view of the atmosphere at Anfield.

The Scousers may blag an atmosphere at Anfield by 5 minutes of YNWA at the start of every match, and the atmosphere after a goal, but they keep on getting away with it.

Akanji.

"We came back in before the game and I talked to Riyad Mahrez as well. He was sitting right next to me. I was like, 'Is it always like this here? Everybody talks so highly of Anfield and I don’t really see it'.

"He just told me to wait until the game started and then when it did I was like a different atmosphere completely. Particularly in the second half when our goal was disallowed and they scored. It was really, really loud then."

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Truth is, the issue of fans leaving early isn't unique to City. It's commonplace at every English stadium. Watch any Premier League game and you see fans leaving early. Expensive tickets, thoughtless, changeable kick-off times, and commonplace transport difficulties have made the UK fan’s condition that much trickier.

Germany have cheap tickets and integrated transport systems as well as planned and organised things to help the atmosphere. This helps people feel part of something bigger and not just observers, as I think football fans here are. Klopp said this in 2015 which is something he’d never seen in Dortmund, due in no small part to the above.
"After the goal on 82 minutes, with 12 minutes to go, I saw many people leaving the stadium. I felt pretty alone at this moment"

Anfield in particular is a difficult stadium to get away from due to the non-existent public transport infrastructure surrounding the stadium. "It's normal for Liverpool fans to leave early because traffic and parking around Anfield is horrendous," explained the Telegraphs Merseyside correspondent Chris Bascombe. "And it is not a new thing: as far back as the 1970s Tommy Smith used to have a go at early leavers."

“At White Hart Lane, the London Overground train after final whistle is basically unusable. If you leave a couple of minutes before the whistle you’re saving yourself an hour wait for a train.“

There are numerous examples like these and they will continue unless huge changes to the structure of football are made which take account of fans. As this is unlikely to ever happen, early leavers will be more and more apparent.

 

[jrb]

If you leave early I imagine it would be to spend hours trawling through YouTube for (out of context) videos of European ultras to post to negatively compare City fans to or to study your own personal CCTV footage of Anfield to corroborate your comment that to a man everybody in anfield stays to the end of every game.

But it’s not true is it so why say it ?

Stop being silly. First paragraph.

I've crticised Liverpool's home support on here plenty of times.

But the fact is Liverpool fans do stay until full-time, especially the KOP.

So why not admit that and post the truth?

 

[Dodgy Gangster]

It's right though some of the stuff saying even though some may think its harsh

I disagree, the same unforgiving standards that some blues apply to our own support are not applied when comparing the behaviour of other fanbases

 

[Beaker]

It was about staying until the end.

But if you want a players honest view of the atmosphere at Anfield.

The Scousers may blag an atmosphere at Anfield by 5 minutes of YNWA at the start of every match, and the atmosphere after a goal, but they keep on getting away with it.

Akanji.

"We came back in before the game and I talked to Riyad Mahrez as well. He was sitting right next to me. I was like, 'Is it always like this here? Everybody talks so highly of Anfield and I don’t really see it'.

"He just told me to wait until the game started and then when it did I was like a different atmosphere completely. Particularly in the second half when our goal was disallowed and they scored. It was really, really loud then.

I grant you the early leavers are a joke at City.

Atmosphere wise last week was a game that, as I stated in my earlier post, got their juices flowing. I went to Anfield before we were a rival to them on numerous occasions and trust me it’s flat. You can hear where’s your famous atmosphere belted out from the away end regularly on the telly.

 

[Dodgy Gangster]

Stop being silly. First paragraph.

I have crticised Liverpool's home support on here plenty of times.

But the fact is Liverpool fans do stay until full-time, especially the KOP.

So why not admit that and post the truth?

First paragraph, poor attempt at humour although with a kernel of truth in there I think particularly with regard to the context.

You categorically state in post 1067 that to paraphrase you, dippers “to a man stay until the final whistle and applaud the team off every home game”

That absolutely 100% nailed on isn’t true. Whenever I watch them on telly I catch sight of people leaving the stands towards the end of games. Why do you make such a point of insisting it is true when you’ve no way of knowing unless you’re there every home game. Why needlessly and mistakenly big up those feral scumbags ?

 

[jrb]

I grant you the early leavers are a joke at City.

Atmosphere wise last week was a game that, as I stated in my earlier post, got their juices flowing. I went to Anfield before we were a rival to them on numerous occasions and trust me it’s flat. You can hear where’s your famous atmosphere belted out from the away end regularly on the telly.

It is flat, you're right. I was at the match last week. Bar sporadic chanting, most of it coming from the KOP, it was only loud, and it was loud, when Salah scored. Our support at the Etihad in similar circumstances in big games is just as loud.