Jude Bellingham

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Keeper! said:
As far as I am aware horse racing has not limit on investment and is called the sport of kings for a reason.

I seem to remember a certain Sheik Maktoum speeding hundreds of millions on the finest horses and not always getting the results he would expect.

No doubt Bellingham is a huge talent, but spending 130m plus contract is not a bargain and comes at a huge risk, as said previously, in the history of football, very few of these gigantic transfer deals have proved to be a success.
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Again you say in rhe history of football few of these gigantic fees prove to be a success.

List them?
There is 12 over 100m
Neymar
Mbappe
Felix
Countinho
Pogba
Lukaku
Greisman
Dembele
Bale
Grealish
Hazard
Ronaldo

Can we say 7 are a success on there and I am not even going to include Jack.

Countinho, Pogba, Lukaku are flops, lukaku was his move back to Chelsea
 
bluealf said:
Again you say in rhe history of football few of these gigantic fees prove to be a success.

List them?
There is 12 over 100m
Neymar
Mbappe
Felix
Countinho
Pogba
Lukaku
Greisman
Dembele
Bale
Grealish
Hazard
Ronaldo

Can we say 7 are a success on there and I am not even going to include Jack.

Countinho, Pogba, Lukaku are flops, lukaku was his move back to Chelsea
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Ronaldo, Bale, Mbappé and Neymar are the only successes there. Dembele, Felix and Grealish could still prove to be. Rest are flops.

4 successes (Ronaldo, Bale, Neymar, Mbappé)
3 jury out (Dembele, Grealish, Felix)
5 flops (Coutinho, Griezmann, Pogba, Lukaku and Hazard)
 
bluealf said:
In horse racing terms people pay absolute fortunes for horses because of breeding or in simpler terms potential.

Bellingham is a full international at 18yo, scored at a world cup finals and has the 'potential' to improve and keep on improving.

We signed Sterling for 45m and then we got the best three years out of him anybody will get.

At 18yo we could feasibly have this player for 15 years for 130m that would make it an absolute bargain.
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The word bargain seems to have lost all meaning
 
kye1991 said:
The word bargain seems to have lost all meaning
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if we signed him and kept him until he is 33yo as we have done with a lot of our signings, do you not think that 8.5m a year, (not including wages as that would be pointless they all get paid loads.)

So 8-9m a year is not a bargain for a player that will have given us 15 years of service?

I'd snap your hand off for that scenario right now.
 
kun said:
Ronaldo, Bale, Mbappé and Neymar are the only successes there. Dembele, Felix and Grealish could still prove to be. Rest are flops.

4 successes (Ronaldo, Bale, Neymar, Mbappé)
3 jury out (Dembele, Grealish, Felix)
5 flops (Coutinho, Griezmann, Pogba, Lukaku and Hazard)
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Fair enough, I wouldn't particularly argue at the flops, though it is funny that it is the old money teams that have had the most flops.

It doesn't unduly worry me about signing one, our recent record is very good, if Jack pushes on then it will be excellent.

Also, we do need to have some English players in the squad to keep to the rules or again we end up playing with a smaller squad, if we have to pay more for that then it is what it is.
 
Keeper! said:
As far as I am aware horse racing has not limit on investment and is called the sport of kings for a reason.

I seem to remember a certain Sheik Maktoum speeding hundreds of millions on the finest horses and not always getting the results he would expect.

No doubt Bellingham is a huge talent, but spending 130m plus contract is not a bargain and comes at a huge risk, as said previously, in the history of football, very few of these gigantic transfer deals have proved to be a success.
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It's not a bargain, bit it could be, that's what you don't seem to understand
 
DorisBlue said:
I genuinely think sancho is not intelligent (football or otherwise) enough to play for a team thats not on a continual counter attack. Think he’d struggle here now and even if he’s stayed.

For me Grealish is 100% a better player now than when we bought him. Everyones favourite punchbag but a quality player

Mahrez was better last 2 seasons than the player we bought yes. Less explosive than leicester title season but working under much higher pressure. Had a poor start to this season but current level isnt representative

Sterling definitely realised his potential! Christ do you think he could have been any better than the 17/18,18/19 seasons? Poor last season

Jesus will struggle to be better than he was for us, could still improve but no one thought he was being held back.

All 4 improved under pep. If bellingham came in and also improved under pep we’d be onto an incredible midfield player.
See also bernardo, rodri, gundo, kdb - all “good” players made “great” by pep
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If Grealish is 100% better than when we bought him , why isn’t he starting tonight ,why doesn’t he regularly start for us !!!
 
bluealf said:
if we signed him and kept him until he is 33yo as we have done with a lot of our signings, do you not think that 8.5m a year, (not including wages as that would be pointless they all get paid loads.)

So 8-9m a year is not a bargain for a player that will have given us 15 years of service?

I'd snap your hand off for that scenario right now.
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spot on cheeky ;)
 
Seemed to gel and celebrate well with Foden and Grealish tonight.

Clutching at straws, but I think it looks promising.
 
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