Liverpool fans throwing missiles from South Stand Level 3

A57 the snake said:
Let’s move on and leave them behind their not worth it we know that. We’ve had the rags , Chelsea and that lot even Arsenal at some point . All trying to become our nearest contender they’ve failed all of them it’ll be Newcastle next and unfortunately for them it will end the same. No arrogance it’s just the way it roll.
That lot will be soon very soon forgotten about.
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Bit raggish that mate.
 
Ric said:
Sections of the media have undoubtedly stoked the flames of this. They’re very quick to condemn what is happening, but seemingly unwilling to accept any culpability for it.
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The media is riddled with dippers and also riddled with editors that allow said fanboys to be as partisan as they like, so much so as it actually seems encouraged.
 
Withnail said:
Thankfully I was sat in CB level 3, but not surprised to hear of the Scouse feral behaviour. Absolutely stupid decision by City to give them the top tier and I feel sorry for the City fans in SS2 who had endure the many missiles and coins thrown at them. There is a reason why they’re hated throughout the country.
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Agreed. No one likes the city fans. ;)
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
If that scummy club had a gram of integrity, they'd come out and say that, due to the terrible behaviour of their fans, they wouldn't be taking an allocation for the PL game.
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Don’t be ridiculous. They probs give them the missiles to throw. There’s no way dippers would have that many coins, and those that do won’t be throwing them away
 
Man-chester copperpot said:
Liverpool Echo getting priorities right :

“Liverpool have confirmed their intention to investigate a number of incidents at Manchester City's Etihad Stadium on Thursday night that includes the racial abuse of disabled supporters.
Despite the entertainment on the pitch, the match was marred by a number of disturbances in the crowd that saw Liverpool 's disabled supporters abused on the tribune. Objects were also thrown from the visitors into the home end, causing injury to a teenage girl.
A City supporter was ejected from the stadium for the abuse, which is understood to be of a racist nature, that was aimed at some of Liverpool's disabled following in Manchester.
Greater Manchester Police have also launched an investigation after a 15-year-old girl suffered injuries when an object was thrown in her direction. It's understood the cuts sustained were serious enough to require treatment at the stadium on the night”

In other words :
Liverpool fans getting shouted at….

…and while were on the subject some random 15yr old girl get’s head cut open by pint pot filled with coins thrown from the top tier

Next………
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Thousands of Liverpool fans will be offered emotional support and counseling after “get to work you lazy tw@t’s” was belted out by the home supporters in what Police described as an anti Scouse hate crime
 
CPPSC said:
If it’s conflating why is it not about Heysel?
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And it's been conflated with about another 100 examples of "victimhood" since. To claim it's just a Hillsborough reference is disingenuous.

Last night we heard more examples: yes it's bad that objects were thrown but we were the victims because they started it with Hillsborough chants (self-perpetuating victimhood), or Feed the Scousers chants .... We are the victims because it's poverty shaming us as Liverpool is the only place in England that has been poorly treated (factually incorrect victimhood).

The club do it too: yes coins were thrown, but we are the victims because they started it with Hillsborough sings and vandalism (self-inflicted AND suspiciously convenient victimhood), yes they have won 4/5 but we are the victims because they can spend what they want and we can't compete (just completely bollocks victimhood).

And recently, chants about the late Queen were only because we were victims of the royal family who orchestrated the campaign against us about Hillsborough (paranoid victimhood). IRA chants were because we are the victims of anti-Irish sentiment, being the only city that has a large Irish community (factually incorrect and, really, honestly, desperate-stretch victimhood) .

All these just from that last few weeks. Multiply that over 30 years and you get why people don't buy into that mentality any more, and why it grates. I doubt there are many football fans in England who disagree that Liverpool fans suffer from a victim complex.

They just take these victim positions because it's a way of self-validating their own offensive behaviour.

A read for our visiting Liverpool friends:
www.betterup.com

Victim Mentality: How We Hold Ourselves Back by Blaming Others

When you give up responsibility for your life, that’s not all you give up. Learn the impact victim mentality has on your life, and how to overcome it.
www.betterup.com www.betterup.com
 
BringBackSwales said:
I often wonder how much the liverpool echo’s obsession and constant digs at City has helped inflame their hatred of us and the associated abuse.
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This is a good and often overlooked point. And not just the Liverpool press, but the national press as well. And not just the local and national press, either, but the actions of Liverpool's owners, Liverpool's current and ex-executives and Liverpool's staff. And not just that, but the synchronisation between all of these.

The constant drip, drip of negativity around City from Liverpool (the club) since we became a threat to them: the letters, the leaks, the hacking, the lies about state-ownership and spending, the bad day for football bollocks, are bad enough, but when they are amplified by a supportive and unquestioning media, it has had a terrible effect on the relationship between the fans. Liverpool fans take it all as gospel: cheats, state-owned, spend anything and causes jealousy, especially when they lose out. City fans see it for what it is and it creates a siege (or if you like our own victim) mentality.

And it's all so unnecessary.

Part of me hopes City entered into this "joint action" initiative on the understanding Liverpool and their "client" press tone down their rhetoric a bit. That would at least explain it. We will see in the next few months if there is any truth in that, I suppose.
 
Jesus2020 said:
Exactly. Thousands of people who come to the game. 100 thousands of people who can come. Millions who could at any one point get a ticket. One fan doesn't represent a fan base. The fan base is represented by the reaction to the one dickhead.
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About time LFC fans had the balls and integrity to call their own fans out.
Sadly they replicate the behaviour of local law enforcement as we've seen with the Merseyside police who won't even call their own criminal element out.
 
Ric said:
I think you might be right, and not really sure what the solution is. Can see the logic behind joint statements, as separate ones would probably only exacerbate the problem, but there needs to be some responsibility taken. The clubs should acknowledge the specific allegations against their own fans, and condemn them accordingly in the statement, rather than lumping everything together.
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I have to say I disagree. They kind of tried that, well at least City did.

After the accusations of Hillsborough chants, or rather that always the victim chant is about that (because seemingly anything can be if they decide so), City publicly said they were disappointed at a minority's behaviour and would look into it. They acknowledged it, and took responsibility on the fans' behalf.

All it did is make the other more righteous and both the media and their nutter fans fed off it. And some blues more disappointed and maybe feeling aggrieved.

There might not be anything to acknowledge this time at the City end, but if there was and they did, it would just then feed excuses for the Liverpool behaviour on the night by their nutters, and by some of the media. Likewise, if City issued a condemning statement aimed at Liverpool, or Liverpool acknowledges their own, it could feed resentment among a minority of blues that may be likely to react next time.

They are both trying to calm it down, and stretch it out so it has time to settle. They are also half trusting both fans to look at themselves rather than the others. Which might be their mistake tbf. With Liverpool, almost certainly. But even among blues, as seen with one or two over the top reactions to the statement.

Imo it needs a sharper and more drastic measure, like a temporary pause in away support etc. But that has dangers too of overfeeding it and making it bigger than it currently is, or speeding up where it might slowly be going. Tough one, really. At some point, it has to start fans wanting to de-escalate it.
 
FootballSense said:
You are a shithouse and a deluded one.

What do you not understand?

Liverpool hated Utd because they were better than Liverpool.

Liverpool then hated Chelsea because they were better.

They now hate City because City are better.

This hatred is whipped up by, for example, Aldridge; media stooges in prominent positions such as The Express Editor; and Klopp - the PR front for the Liverpool mafia.

Open your eyes, you blinkered buffoon.
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I enjoyed your deployment of the term buffoon........... :-)
 
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