Nedum Onuoha thank you for your honesty.

Keeper! said:
I remember the club giving him a lot of publicity when he was coming through the ranks, not sure if they thought he was a genuine star or things were that bad pre takover that they wanted to give the fans hope.

I was never that impressed by him, as said earlier, incredible athlete but very average footballer.

I always though Micha was way above him in ability.

As fans we all love to see the local lads come through but it also clouds judgment on their ability and prospect of making the first team.
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Without doubt Micah was above him ability wise mate (imo anyway), but I do think the club thought very highly of Nedum and would often hear the other lads and their parents talk highly of him too, no disrespect to Nedum but that was the level we were at, and again personally I think he’d have reached the required bar , but as you say, sometimes that romance can cloud our judgement without doubt.
 
Dirty Harry said:
He certainly was (and no doubt still is for his age), kind of saddens me but I watched Nedum grow through the youth system, similar with Micah, and at the time was really confident they’d both go on to become the stalwarts of the team for years to come, and would have been made up with that, because that’s where we were then, Nedum I suppose was one of the biggest casualties of the takeover.
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Chronic underachievement was the biggest casualty of the takeover!
 
Dirty Harry said:
Without doubt Micah was above him ability wise mate (imo anyway), but I do think the club thought very highly of Nedum and would often hear the other lads and their parents talk highly of him too, no disrespect to Nedum but that was the level we were at, and again personally I think he’d have reached the required bar , but as you say, sometimes that romance can cloud our judgement without doubt.
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It's really funny but, in terms of ability, there's not a great chasm between Neds back then and when Stones first came to us. I think Stones is excellent as a defender now, but his passing and decision making wasn't too great at the start, paralleled with Neds who showed glimpses of that ability.

Defending has changed from the aggressive smash-into-the-oppo-to-let-them-know-you're-there type game.

If Neds had had a Guardiola type manager/ coach back then, he'd have been a stalwart on the side, imo.
 
Bigga said:
It's really funny but, in terms of ability, there's not a great chasm between Neds back then and when Stones first came to us. I think Stones is excellent as a defender now, but his passing and decision making wasn't too great at the start, paralleled with Neds who showed glimpses of that ability.

Defending has changed from the aggressive smash-into-the-oppo-to-let-them-know-you're-there type game.

If Neds had had a Guardiola type manager/ coach back then, he'd have been a stalwart on the side, imo.
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In all honesty Bigga I thought Stones was more cultured (for want of a better phrase) in his earlier career at Everton, and defensively I was really impressed with how he coped against Sergio especially, but that’s not to say Ned couldn’t have improved massively with someone like Pep, he had the intelligence and athleticism naturally (although when I first saw him, I’d heard he was quick, but I was a bit surprised as he looked quite heavy and smooth for a sprinter, it took one race with their forward to convince me he was indeed fuckin rapid lol).

As an addendum to my post, when I say the parents and the lads, I was actually referring to the other youth players and parents.
 
Dirty Harry said:
In all honesty Bigga I thought Stones was more cultured (for want of a better phrase) in his earlier career at Everton, and defensively I was really impressed with how he coped against Sergio especially, but that’s not to say Ned couldn’t have improved massively with someone like Pep, he had the intelligence and athleticism naturally (although when I first saw him, I’d heard he was quick, but I was a bit surprised as he looked quite heavy and smooth for a sprinter, it took one race with their forward to convince me he was indeed fuckin rapid lol).

As an addendum to my post, when I say the parents and the lads, I was actually referring to the other youth players and parents.
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I think that's fair about Neds and Stones' ability, although I did say there wasn't a great chasm, but I do appreciate the view!
 
oakiecokie said:
Tonight at our Mid Cheshire Branch Meeting we had as our Guest Speaker the truly wonderful and most honest Guest Speaker we have ever had ... one Nedum Onuoha.
From the moment he walked into our local Winsford local (George & Dragon) and engaged himself to not just City fans but those who recognised him he laughed and joked as though it was his local boozer.
One of the highlights for me was his response to my question ref his relationship (or none with Gary Cook) since his infamous e-mails to his Mum. However Marwood didn`t escape his criticism and he too was equally as bad as Cook and even now lies were told about how Everton wanted Nedum but Marwood lied about it and eventually he ended up at QPR.
If ever you get the opportunity to see Nedum please do, as his hate for United still ranks, even though the Dippers are our current closest rivals, but not in Nedums eyes.
A wonderful speaker, but a true Blue Mooner even as an ex Player.
Nedum ... well done mate and a true Blue if ever we doubted you.
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My Mam+Dad are moving to Winsford… is that a City pub by any chance?
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
My Mam+Dad are moving to Winsford… is that a City pub by any chance?
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Yes The George & Dragon on Delamere Street has been my local for 50 years (seriously) and attracts quite a few City fans, as we have our Branch Meetings in one of the upstairs rooms. However the landlord is a Scouser but a decent guy who at least you can have a more than half decent football debate with, even though we take the pure piss out of one another.
Very clean pub and no mither at all.
 
asahartford1 said:
I agree the team outgrew his ability. (Nedum).
Where we may differ is that I believe the club treat players with respect much more now. There is a quality which is inherent within, something Mancini was incapable of. But is now a part of the clubs philosophy.
Just because a player doesn't play at City doesn't make them second rate. I have respect for any player who has a professional career.
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www.planetfootball.com

Nedum Onuoha: Mancini insulted his players during Man City's title win

Nedum Onuoha says Roberto Mancini was cursing and insulting Manchester City's players on the day of their amazing Premier League title win in 2012.
www.planetfootball.com www.planetfootball.com

Don't know if you've read that before, you might enjoy it.
 
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