PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Weavers run said:
I don’t mind Jordan until he speaks about city. He clearly doesn’t like us or our owners. Referred to us as a grotty mob when trying to buy Kane, that isn’t somebody who can talk impartially and balanced about us when he clearly lets person issues take over. As he speaks well the turds who listen to that station hang on his every word. Regardless of the truth
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domalino said:
The club not cooperating with investigation into the past 5 seasons is a bit concerning to be honest.

The only logical reason to cooperate with investigations into 2008-2017 (the period covered by the hack) and not cooperate over 2018-2023 is that the punishment and reputational damage for obstructing the investigation is better than what would be revealed if you did fully cooperate.
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I am not sure that is how things work. What you are saying is "if you are innocent show us everything then"...I mean they have some allegations on 2009-2017 so focus on that.
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
What gets me with all this is we have charges against us in a time when Sheikhandour was allowed to do what he liked with his money. Once the regulations come in then yeah its fair game but if its going to be this intense why not go back to when the human rights advocate Thaksin took us over. Also am I supposed to believe not a criminal in at all Abramovich did everything correctly, that Gillete and Hocks weren't a pair of shysters. The Cardiff and Hull owners who took the piss out of there own fans. Why does it only include us, fucking chancers amd criminals running the PL
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On that first point; even though there were different rules at the time, they are still saying our books don’t reflect what they say they do which is against criminal law that all businesses have to abide by, outside of PL FFP rules.

Many of the charges are about in accurate reporting.

Also, the PL could probably find something on every club but they aren’t looking at any other clubs.

We probably do things every club does but we’re the only ones being investigated (although they’ll also be looking at Everton soon as well).

It’s a strict-up, good and proper. It’s 1906 all over again.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
We didn't need to express surprise or make a point about impartiality. It was a not very subtle dig and won't go unnoticed by the potential leader of the panel itself. Words always matter in these legal conflicts.
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Doesn't do any harm to get the independent digs in at the beginning. Realistically, we are going to be charged with something and independence is certainly one angle that could be used later. I would imagine we will protest the Arsenal fan KC as well, will be useful later. There must be plenty of KCs who don't follow football to oversee the committee.
 
dario2739 said:
They've all got where they are due to having money pumped in, the problem is it's historic... Arsenal moved to Highbury for money, Liverpool in the early 60's etc... HOWEVER, this doesn't mean any of them are not guilty of serious financial misdemeanours during the PL era... we all know - as do proper Rags - that Ferguson and United got up to some proper dodgy shit... their transfer dealings for players like Bellion and Bebe to name but two, the incentivees they offered kids families to have their kids join them... etc. etc., but does the hard proof exist?
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Fitzman’s £50 mil investment in the mid 90’s (when Arsenal’s turnover was. £16 mil at the time) is equivalent to 1.5 billion in todays money. Totally transformed the club with half the french world cup squad plus Bergkamp/overmars brought in. Nothing ever said
 
BlueMoonz1977 said:
Eyebrows have also been raised in regards to the timing of the Premier League’s announcement, given the imminent publication of a white paper by the UK Government relating to an independent footballing regulator.

So here's a question, why dont the PL want football to have an independent regulator!

The PL under the vice like grip of the yank owned clubs have thrown these charges out like a panicked soldier chucking a thrown enemy grenade from the trenches

So much so, that our own club lawyers had to tell the PL that they had worded the allegations incorrectly!

I believe that we will prove our innocence, however i want us to then go for all these bastards that have been party to these attacks - and unfortunately that know means the PL and those in charge are in that line of fire

I have to also question what the end game here actually is? Cos it is the yank owned clubs who are leading this systematic attack on our owners and club.

Is it to get some charges to stick, get us fined and docked points plus maybe a transfer ban that would allow the red shirts to catch up and become the top 3 once more? So they can once again dominate domestically

Or is it the above to get us so far behind that the super league will resurface but will no longer have City included in it?

Whatever it is i am praying that we no longer take the softly softly approach - this is surely it now and the powers at the PL have shown their hand and which mast their colours are nailed to
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Makes you wonder doesn't it?

One thing I noticed in that Independent piece that @Ric linked to several pages back is that City are the only one of the so-called "Big Six" clubs who are in favour of an independent regulator. Make of that what you will!
 
domalino said:
Depends what evidence they have. He seemingly has not spoken to anyone involved in the investigation, so they've brought the charges based on other evidence.
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Cheers, to me it’s beginning to look more and more like a witch hunt with some rather desperate and overreaching charges..
 
I'll be looking out for the York away fixture...I ain't missing it next time round.
l hope the outcome for the PL is as the saying goes..you play with fire your gonna get burnt...and hopefully very badly
 
Bellamy's Caddy said:
As ever with these things, the supporters are completely overlooked in all of this. The timing, clearly has a huge impact on the club, Pep and the players, but what about our fans?

It's getting in to the business end of the season, with a lot to play for and hopefully City will at the least push Arsenal close and do well in the cup competitions. But with this hanging over us, potentially the outcomes of these games are irrelevant, if we are stripped of titles/docked points/relegated/banned for life etc.

Whether City have done something wrong is one thing, but the fans certainly haven't. But we're just collateral damage that isn't given a second thought. Football is an incredible sport, but the way it is run is a disgrace and has been for a long time.
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If we get found guilty, stripped of titles, relegated for dealings going back to 2009 I may get a group together to sue the Premier League for incompetence in letting this issue run.

I would want all my season ticket spend, travel, away day expenses, Wembley visits and European trips refunded, absolute cunts the FA and it's American influenced owners.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I may be in a minority but I also thought City's response was poor. The sarcastic tone was stupid given the situation and will not do us any favours in the long-term. We now have to present our case to an independent panel and the tone we adopt will influence the outcome. A flippant tone is a very bad idea. I would have liked a strong statement which just made it clear that we rejected the allegations and had very strong evidence to disprove them.
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Was listening to Kieran Maguire on the radio last night, and he said that City's legal team have rejected every request for information related to these charges. This has been going on for 4 years. Yesterday's announcement seems to be out of pure exasperation, and has to be related to the governments white paper and cracking down on the PL, because they cannot regulate themselves. The fact that they are still talking about breaches that date back to 2009, proves that they are incompetent, because if they knew about this in 2018, why has it taken 4 years to mention it.

This scenario is like the Police banning someone from driving, because they refused to give a breath test. The independent adjudicator is pivotal in all of this, but the legal team have to really pull out all the stops now. They may own up to all the lesser charges but fight tooth and nail against the big ones.

One thing that does give me cause for concern is the faux sponsorship deals that were discovered in the summer. This was a real open goal, especially considering the club were in the midst of an investigation for financial irregularities. If a student from Norway can unearth bogus betting sponsors, then anyone else can, especially if you do that for a living. And recently announcing that City bring in more commercial revenue than Real Madrid and Barcelona. It's almost taunting them to investigate those revenue streams.
 
M18CTID said:
Makes you wonder doesn't it?

One thing I noticed in that Independent piece that @Ric linked to several pages back is that City are the only one of the so-called "Big Six" clubs who are in favour of an independent regulator. Make of that what you will!
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Yanks don’t want it because they want be able to direct the premier in the direction they want!
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
On that first point; even though there were different rules at the time, they are still saying our books don’t reflect what they say they do which is against criminal law that all businesses have to abide by, outside of PL FFP rules.

Many of the charges are about in accurate reporting.
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If the PL thought City had broken the law they'd be required to have reported it and there'd be an ongoing crminial investigation into the club which would 100% have made it to the press.

They're not alleging any law breaking. They're alleging the club has not satisfied the extra disclosures the PL demands above and beyond what HMRC wants for your accounts.
 
A so called expert on radio 5 just said how far do teams want this to go with accusations then mentioned about lpool having to pay a 1m fine to city for hacking city
OrigamiNinja said:
I find the whole not cooperating with the last 5 seasons odd. If for no other reason than we’ve had this cloud over us for much of that time, and if anything you would think our latest (last few seasons) accounts would be absolutely rock-solid?
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Probably didn,t trust them to cooperate with them
 
schfc6 said:
Cheers, to me it’s beginning to look more and more like a witch hunt with some rather desperate and overreaching charges..
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Same here. Over the last 24 hours I've been growing steadily more confident that we'll be OK. People who know their stuff and have no good reason to lie are saying they don't think this will lead to anything serious.

Just annoying that it will take years to sort out.
 
Palerider said:
Looks like the media have declared us guilty and then asked for a jury to be formed. Bunch of absolute cunts. Like the Ku Klux Klan looking to lynch someone.
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From now on, there should be no more Media Thread on this site, don’t give any **** any spotlight or clicks. We as a set of fans and as a club should now be ice cold to the media.

Although I said the same with the UEFA charges and their similar ‘guilty before proven innocent’ stance back then and we continued, as a set of fans and as a club, to give the media a shiny big platform and as many links, clicks, promotions, invites, information and hospitality as we ever did before it.

FUCK THE MEDIA! Get rid of that thread off here and City ban the cunts from the Etihad!
 
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