Suella Braverman - sacked as Home Secretary (p394)

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bluethrunthru said:
for all those wanting for it to be illegal imagine there was major civil unrest in the UK or a nuclear accident bigger then Chernobyl. Wouldn't they try to get themselves and their families abroad to a place of safety? Then imagine if they were trying to get to France or the Netherlands who's population campaigned to keep them out claiming what they were doing was illegal so their govt's locked them in hotels and a few months later deported them to a safe 3rd country - say Gabon for example. Surely that would be fair?
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Wait till London floods and we have millions of Brits as "economic migrants" to other bits of Britain.
 
Vic said:
Wait till London floods and we have millions of Brits as "economic migrants" to other bits of Britain.
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I will lobby for them to be returned to the soggy Home Counties - I don't care if the speak English or have family in Barnsley they will be putting an unbearable strain in the infrastructure the Govt they elected decided to underfund.
 
Cricket Blue said:
No it's not
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Lets have some facts then.

The country that takes the most "invaders" are Cyprus who take in 152 per 10K of population.
Austria takes in 43
Malta takes in 29
Greece takes in 26
Germany takes in 22
France takes in 18
Holland takes in 15
Italy takes in 9'

The UK takes in 8 per 10k of population.

Invasion is inflammatory and it is disgusting language to use.
 
Rascal said:
Oh Goodie! a fucking idiot who needs schooling.

The UK is 51st on the list of countries with high population densities behind places such as

Bangladesh
Lebanon
Rwanda :))
India
Korea
Holland
Israel
Belgium
Phillipines
Japan
Sri Lanka
Pakistan.

It is only just more dense than Germany, Switzerland and Italy.

The four least dense countries are Greenland, Namibia, Australia and Mongolia.

As for "champagne socialist" do you not understand that the point of Socialism is everyone can drink Champagne, it is not the reserve of the capitalist class.

There is no open door policy, it is a lie that was used to scare people into voting for Brexit. Free movement of people was never an open door policy, it was a prerequisite for being a member of the EU.

I do not know if you have noticed, but Labour are not in Government, their job is to oppose legislation that they think will harm the country. Oppositions of whatever hue do not need policies they can not implement thanks to the advarsarial nature of UK parliamentary democracy.

It is rather telling you think Braverman is doing a good job, she has overt fascist tendencies, she is an "otherer" of people, a dangerous road to go down, Its telling she wants to stop small boats, see she does not see the people in those boats as human beings, she sees them as scum who threaten her way of life. What she has done is throw red meat to the far right because the Tories are now so desperate to cling to power they have nothing else.

That fucking lying clown Johnson is responsible, he got rid of the one nation Tories and left them closer aligned to the BNP and NF than the sensible Conservatism of old. If you are enjoying the slide towards Fascism, then you are a fucking idiot.
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Or a fascist.
 
Rascal said:
Oh Goodie! a fucking idiot who needs schooling.

The UK is 51st on the list of countries with high population densities behind places such as

Bangladesh
Lebanon
Rwanda :))
India
Korea
Holland
Israel
Belgium
Phillipines
Japan
Sri Lanka
Pakistan.

It is only just more dense than Germany, Switzerland and Italy.

The four least dense countries are Greenland, Namibia, Australia and Mongolia.

As for "champagne socialist" do you not understand that the point of Socialism is everyone can drink Champagne, it is not the reserve of the capitalist class.

There is no open door policy, it is a lie that was used to scare people into voting for Brexit. Free movement of people was never an open door policy, it was a prerequisite for being a member of the EU.

I do not know if you have noticed, but Labour are not in Government, their job is to oppose legislation that they think will harm the country. Oppositions of whatever hue do not need policies they can not implement thanks to the advarsarial nature of UK parliamentary democracy.

It is rather telling you think Braverman is doing a good job, she has overt fascist tendencies, she is an "otherer" of people, a dangerous road to go down, Its telling she wants to stop small boats, see she does not see the people in those boats as human beings, she sees them as scum who threaten her way of life. What she has done is throw red meat to the far right because the Tories are now so desperate to cling to power they have nothing else.

That fucking lying clown Johnson is responsible, he got rid of the one nation Tories and left them closer aligned to the BNP and NF than the sensible Conservatism of old. If you are enjoying the slide towards Fascism, then you are a fucking idiot.
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The UKs population density is however quite unbalanced, we have large areas like the highlands of Scotland, the southern uplands and the pennines that have some of the lowest population density in western Europe, and then London and the south east and the Midlands and North west conurbations which have some of the highest densities in Europe. So that figure alone doesn't tell the whole story.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
The UKs population density is however quite unbalanced, we have large areas like the highlands of Scotland, the southern uplands and the pennines that have some of the lowest population density in western Europe, and then London and the south east and the Midlands and North west conurbations which have some of the highest densities in Europe. So that figure alone doesn't tell the whole story.
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You mean more people live in big cities and not so much in the countryside? Game changer!

I wonder if that applies to other countries? :)
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
The UKs population density is however quite unbalanced, we have large areas like the highlands of Scotland, the southern uplands and the pennines that have some of the lowest population density in western Europe, and then London and the south east and the Midlands and North west conurbations which have some of the highest densities in Europe. So that figure alone doesn't tell the whole story.
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And nowhere else has mountains or lakes?
 
BobKowalski said:
You mean more people live in big cities and not so much in the countryside? Game changer!

I wonder if that applies to other countries? :)
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People seem to forget the reason why you can buy a home in the French countryside is because of the flight of people from there to the cities lol - even A Place in the Sun has cited that as one reason you can buy a gite for three and six and a mars bar !!
 
oldius said:
From the FT.

A leading Conservative business figure has quit the party after almost 40 years, citing the party’s alleged “f*** business” attitude and willingness to put vulnerable groups on the front line of a culture war. Iain Anderson, founder of the Cicero public relations group and named “LGBT business champion” in Boris Johnson’s government in September 2021, said he was switching his support to Labour.

Key to his decision to abandon the Tories now is his belief, based on discussions with party insiders, that Prime Minister Rishi Sunak will ramp up the so-called culture wars as a central part of his 2024 election strategy. “It was made pretty clear the plan is to run a culture war to distract from fundamental economic failings,” Anderson said. “It’s not something I want any part of.”
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The politician Rishi Sunak is shit at politics it turns out

www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk

i Front Page 9th of March 2023 - Tomorrow's Papers Today!

A hardline plan by Rishi Sunak to clamp down on Channel crossings puts the UK's improving post-Brexit relationship with the EU "at risk," the i reports.
www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk
 
Vic said:
Or a fascist.
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The thing is Vic, he probably is not, but it shows how easy it is for far right wing propaganda to gain a foothold in communities. The client media gaslight the people, it gets amplified by the likes of that fucking dickhead Farage and like Goebbels said "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it".

Braverman's lie about millions coming here was just an amplification of Farage's breaking point poster.

It is quite heart warming for me to see the opposition to the mad fucker Braverman's stupidity on here, it appears most realise it is a fucking con job aimed at keeping them in power and that the poor people who risk coming here are a fair price to pay for them to continue serving there capitalist masters.
 
bluethrunthru said:
People seem to forget the reason why you can buy a home in the French countryside is because of the flight of people from there to the cities lol - even A Place in the Sun has cited that as one reason you can buy a gite for three and six and a mars bar !!
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Very little work though is there.
 
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