PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[domalino]

sorry, i haven't got a clue what that means and why it would mean our charges getting dropped, could someone please spell it out for me

Yes, explain to us like we're five?

PIF promised to invest 30 billion in the UK.


The failure of the Newcastle takeover was deemed an "immediate risk" to relations between the 2 countries.

This lead to the government leaning on the PL to get the Newcastle United takeover accepted.

 

[Inter Me Nan]

PIF promised to invest 30 billion in the UK.


The failure of the Newcastle takeover was deemed an "immediate risk" to relations between the 2 countries.

This lead to the government leaning on the PL to get the Newcastle United takeover accepted.

Top man cheers.

 

[Silva2021]

could you please explain it to me then thanks( being serious) :)

My understanding (which will be limited) is that the Government has clearly put pressure on PL to let Saudi bypass rules to be owner.

Not because they want Saudi owning Newcastle, but because Saudi are looking to invest significant money in the UK, which massively helps UK PLC

The same will be said of Qatar (based on it not being an individual as claimed but state money) and for us on Abu Dhabi who have a track record of investment and some potential big projects coming up.

The implication is that we could use this leverage with the Govt for them to influence the PL (something they have shown they are willing to do to Saudi) to either make the charges go away or come to a settlement we are happy to take.

Do not believe the posturing that we are happy to have a chance to clear our name, we would be more then happy for these to go away quietly.

 

[Hoghead]

Kinnell ! Starmer should use that one.

He probably will, he doesn't have any tag lines at the moment.

 

[dadnlad]

big gob just been shooting off about EFL charges are instant like look at reading points dectuction this season no messing about unlike everton and city
tantastic shot him down to my surprise ...... reading got found guilty last season and done it again but everton and city have not been found guilty of anything as of yet
but but but advert break

 

[wattle]

I’d probably take that, tbh.

Lol. At least that’ll be the one and only thing the government have done right :)))

 

[Centurions]

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Do not believe the posturing that we are happy to have a chance to clear our name, we would be more then happy for these to go away quietly.

Maybe before they hit us with the 116 charges (1 more has been added for upsetting Liverpool fans) but now I suspect City will want much more than that.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I am sure we have the balls, but also I don't think it's our style to be seen to be so combative and confrontational.

I am also not a lawyer, but I would imagine our case were we to bring one would have to show that the PL accusations were groundless and that they had charged us unreasonably. A defence on their part, I would imagine, would be either/both (a) that they have sufficient evidence prima facie to bring the charges and (b) that doing so was in the public interest.

Any which way, can never see it happening.

In a civil defamation action the burden of proof lies with those making the allegations so the PL would have to prove their claims are true. That said there is probably something in our contract with the PL that prevents us suing them.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Given how much HMG clearly leaned on them over the NUFC takeover it’s impossible to hold to the view that they didn’t know what they were taking on when they issued all those charges against MCFC.

Which makes you think they either had a stonewall case - they haven’t - or they were under immense pressure to bring the charges anyway.

Or perhaps Masters is just stupid as he showed at the Select Committee.

 

[Rory Bluelow]

Given how much HMG clearly leaned on them over the NUFC takeover it’s impossible to hold to the view that they didn’t know what they were taking on when they issued all those charges against MCFC.

Which makes you think they either had a stonewall case - they haven’t - or they were under immense pressure to bring the charges anyway.

To be honest, given the disclosures around Newcastle, I’d say the last thing the PL want is a stonewall case !
I suspect the case is already determined (ie dead) and the priority will be an appropriate exit strategy that satisfies honour on both sides.

 

[halfcenturyup]

116 ....... them nasty city fans singing sack in the morning

Unemployment shaming. Shocking.

 

[BufordUSABlue]

Given how much HMG clearly leaned on them over the NUFC takeover it’s impossible to hold to the view that they didn’t know what they were taking on when they issued all those charges against MCFC.

Which makes you think they either had a stonewall case - they haven’t - or they were under immense pressure to bring the charges anyway.

Spot on Chris ...... as usual!

 

[BufordUSABlue]

I’d probably take that, tbh.

Me too Ric along with a lifetime commitment from the cnuts, of no further 'trumped' up (see what i did there!) charges ........everrrrrr!!!!

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

PIF promised to invest 30 billion in the UK.


The failure of the Newcastle takeover was deemed an "immediate risk" to relations between the 2 countries.

This lead to the government leaning on the PL to get the Newcastle United takeover accepted.

From what I can see, Saudi seem to be moving away from the US and UK, certainly in terms of not caring about their support for Russia and China?

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Interesting. I'm not sure the Glazers, Henry, Levy and other assorted bottom-feeders realise who they are dealing with here.

I don’t doubt that if Crafton’s involved, he’ll be anxious to kickstart the narrative that any government that tries to interfere with football is morally reprehensible (expect Barney and Miguel to be sharpening their pencils in similar vein), whilst simultaneously planting the notion that any City victory at the PL Tribunal will be the result of a dirty political deal. Never forget, the real prize is always to try and nobble City

 

[Gorbachev]

From what I can see, Saudi seem to be moving away from the US and UK, certainly in terms of not caring about their support for Russia and China?

They know the future reserve currency will be the Chinese Yuan.

Historically, I don't think any country has held the reserve currency for more than 110 years which was Spain.

Britain held it for 105 years.

US currently on 102 I think

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

They know the future reserve currency will be the Chinese Yuan.

Historically, I don't think any country has held the reserve currency for more than 110 years which was Spain.

Britain held it for 105 years.

US currently on 102 I think

That's the narrative, but don't see it being Chinese Yuan.

Dollar will be the king for a good time yet and China wouldn't win a war anytime soon.

Interesting to see India have started trading this week using the Rupee as their nominal choice?

I just think the Saudis can always afford to play all sides, everyone needs them and they have the money not to care!

Russian cunts just trying to form alliances because they don't have a pot to piss in.

 

[journolud]

I’d probably take that, tbh.

I wouldn’t. I want us to be categorically and definitively cleared of wrongdoing

 

[Newman Noggs]

I don’t doubt that if Crafton’s involved, he’ll be anxious to kickstart the narrative that any government that tries to interfere with football is morally reprehensible (expect Barney and Miguel to be sharpening their pencils in similar vein), whilst simultaneously planting the notion that any City victory at the PL Tribunal will be the result of a dirty political deal. Never forget, the real prize is always to try and nobble City

Very true but the loonies can bark at the moon all they want if and when we are cleared as far as I'm concerned. The PL could come out and say "we've examined every minute details of these 115 charges and find City innocent of every single one" and those nutters would still be at it.

 

[domalino]

From what I can see, Saudi seem to be moving away from the US and UK, certainly in terms of not caring about their support for Russia and China?

I remember reading a lot about this around the start of the Ukraine war because obviously the gulf states did not really take a position which shocked people outside Washington.

The US made a series of moves the UAE and Saudi didn't like. A big one was not helping Mubarak in Egypt, and another was that they left Yemen when the Iranian supported Houthi rebels were in charge, which was seen as tacitly supporting them.

Since then most of the Middle East has been trying to realign itself as more neutral, building ties with China, India and Russia so they're not seen as the US lap dogs.