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[BringBackSwales]

Bring back Swales?????

I’ve been saying that for years

 

[Blue Mist]

The FA and the PL really don’t give a shit about the fans and tradition.

The FA Cup replays could be scrapped, the early rounds moved to midweeks and the final staged on an ordinary Premier League weekend from the 2024-25 season in the biggest shake-up in the competition’s 152-year history.

Mail Sport has been told the terms of an extraordinary deal which would see the Premier League sell overseas TV rights for the FA Cup for ten years from the 2024-25 season, giving the top-flight clubs control of the entire domestic calendar.

The FA insist that the tender process for overseas rights remains ongoing, but it is understood chief executive Mark Bullingham is minded to accept the Premier League's offer and their terms, which include:

• The abolition of FA Cup replays.
• The prospect of early rounds of the competition being played midweek.
• The end of a stand-alone weekend for the FA Cup final at the end of the season, with the showpiece occasion being brought forward to clash with a regular weekend of Premier League fixtures every year.
• The FA Cup final will likely be held on the penultimate Saturday of the season, with a full Premier League schedule taking place on the Sunday
• A 10-year deal to sell foreign TV rights for all overseas markets, and the possibility of subsequently selling the domestic rights, which are currently held by BBC and ITV.
• An increased offer payment from the Premier League to the FA to fund grassroots football.

And yet people won't boycott a friendly to make a stand against the greed of those that run the shit show.

 

[IOWBlue]

forget the sitting on the fence remarks and "people have the right to do as they wish" bullshit.
If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Keep turning up and nothing will change.
And i would more than likely have gone if it was Saturday, like i have on 7 other Wembley trips.

 

[Stephen230]

And yet people won't boycott a friendly to make a stand against the greed of those that run the shit show.

If people really feel strongly enough about being messed about and want to show their dissent, it needs someone to rally fans from all 20 clubs and have an organised boycott of all Premier League games one weekend. With clearly defined demands that are un-negotiable but also realistic.

Not knocking anyone over this but it won’t be particularly noticeable on TV. People expect to see swathes of empty seats in a 90,000 ground for a friendly.

If every ground across all 10 matches one weekend was even only 75% full, people all over the world would be asking why and it would get huge publicity and air time.

 

[Ctidpaul]

forget the sitting on the fence remarks and "people have the right to do as they wish" bullshit.
If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Keep turning up and nothing will change.
And i would more than likely have gone if it was Saturday, like i have on 7 other Wembley trips.

Are you not doing as you wish then,this is turning to a blue on blue sinario,I’m going ,don’t give a shit what you or anyone else thinks,at least your supporting the problem by watching it on tv,if you all turned your teles off that would hurt their viewing figures more,infact you’ve probably increased their viewing figures

 

[Blue Mist]

If people really feel strongly enough about being messed about and want to show their dissent, it needs someone to rally fans from all 20 clubs and have an organised boycott of all Premier League games one weekend. With clearly defined demands that are un-negotiable but also realistic.

Not knocking anyone over this but it won’t be particularly noticeable on TV. People expect to see swathes of empty seats in a 90,000 ground for a friendly.

If every ground across all 10 matches one weekend was even only 75% full, people all over the world would be asking why and it would get huge publicity and air time.

I totally agree. The 20 is plenty showed what can be achieved. The problem is how to organise it and who to organise it.
My beef isn't just with this match it is about the way all football is going. (Look at the fa cup proposals, killing a great tradition) Unfortunately, at present there is no concerted campaign and so little will be achieved.

 

[Stephen230]

I totally agree. The 20 is plenty showed what can be achieved. The problem is how to organise it and who to organise it.
My beef isn't just with this match it is about the way all football is going. (Look at the fa cup proposals, killing a great tradition) Unfortunately, at present there is no concerted campaign and so little will be achieved.

Fan’s do have the power collectively. And something like a reduction in prices for away tickets was an achievable goal. Full credit to those who organised that campaign. I said somewhere else the other day, that without it I’m sure we’d be paying over £100 for certain London aways by now.

The problem with organising a campaign around a general disconnect about the way the game is going, is you need to have specific aims to have any chance of achieving anything. And it’s difficult to find any consensus on exactly what they are.

As for the FA Cup, that’s been on the decline for decades. People like to point at United withdrawing that year as the turning point. But it goes back way further than that. Players used to come to this league and name winning the Cup as their ultimate ambition. Now they’re more likely to say finishing 4th in the league. Soon to be 5th more often than now.

 

[Shirley]

Fan’s do have the power collectively. And something like a reduction in prices for away tickets was an achievable goal. Full credit to those who organised that campaign. I said somewhere else the other day, that without it I’m sure we’d be paying over £100 for certain London aways by now.

The problem with organising a campaign around a general disconnect about the way the game is going, is you need to have specific aims to have any chance of achieving anything. And it’s difficult to find any consensus on exactly what they are.

As for the FA Cup, that’s been on the decline for decades. People like to point at United withdrawing that year as the turning point. But it goes back way further than that. Players used to come to this league and name winning the Cup as their ultimate ambition. Now they’re more likely to say finishing 4th in the league. Soon to be 5th more often than now.

The rags withdrawing from the FA Cup that year certainly had had an effect. I’m still puzzled to why they just didn’t field a reserve team or such.
It is still magical to the vast majority of football fans.

 

[Stephen230]

The rags withdrawing from the FA Cup that year certainly had had an effect. I’m still puzzled to why they just didn’t field a reserve team or such.
It is still magical to the vast majority of football fans.

It was undoubtedly one small nail in the coffin. But no more than that.

The talk at the time was that the eventual winners would forever be known as the asterix winners and that year’s competition would never be mentioned without reference to United’s absence.

Yet who can honestly now say without looking it up, who even won the Cup that year?

 

[Bluemanc100]

I’m not going but I’d love to take them to the cleaners

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I totally agree. The 20 is plenty showed what can be achieved. The problem is how to organise it and who to organise it.
My beef isn't just with this match it is about the way all football is going. (Look at the fa cup proposals, killing a great tradition) Unfortunately, at present there is no concerted campaign and so little will be achieved.

The FA Cup has been dying on its feet and needs a total shake-up. This year's final was fantastic for obvious reasons. I am all for protecting ticket prices but not opposed to change and modernisation.

 

[IOWBlue]

Are you not doing as you wish then,this is turning to a blue on blue sinario,I’m going ,don’t give a shit what you or anyone else thinks,at least your supporting the problem by watching it on tv,if you all turned your teles off that would hurt their viewing figures more,infact you’ve probably increased their viewing figures

Sorry Paul but i wont be watching this friendly on tv. i have no bt sport, sky or other paid channels and never will. As far as going against my wishes, nobody wanted to go against the third reich and risk their lives, but they did because it was the right thing to do.

 

[Blue Mist]

The FA Cup has been dying on its feet and needs a total shake-up. This year's final was fantastic for obvious reasons. I am all for protecting ticket prices but not opposed to change and modernisation.

I'm not opposed to sensible change but I have always looked forward to the 3rd round, on the Saturday after the new year. Soon it will be a Wednesday, 'when we can fit it in' at 5.30 with the final after the 5.30 Saturday match. None of the changes will benefit the match going fan.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I'm not opposed to sensible change but I have always looked forward to the 3rd round, on the Saturday after the new year. Soon it will be a Wednesday, 'when we can fit it in' at 5.30 with the final after the 5.30 Saturday match. None of the changes will benefit the match going fan.

My biggest bugbear with modern football is the huge number of meaningless international fixtures against pub teams. We never had all these international breaks which are undermining club football and putting pressue on great competitions like the FA Cup. Fans suffer because of a greedy battle for revenues between the PL, UEFA, and FIFA. It is even possible the FA Cup might do better run by the PL because the PL has more clout than the FA.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

The FA Cup has been dying on its feet and needs a total shake-up. This year's final was fantastic for obvious reasons. I am all for protecting ticket prices but not opposed to change and modernisation.

Moving games to midweek and changing the final date isn’t modernisation - it’s all about greed and the premier league stamping its power over the FA. It’s working perfectly well as it is.

 

[Blue Mist]

As this thread is about a boycott I will (re)state my case. When the Champs League goes to extra matches I'm out. All matches. After the Istanbul shite I nearly sacked it then. I am not going to another semi final at that congested shit hole and if either Wembley final means I can't do the train, I'm out. I tolerate 12.30pm kick offs, just, but if they start doing 7.45's on a Saturday or Sunday my ticket will be on the exchange. Those in charge, including City don't give a tuppeny fuck about us, to me this boycott is far more than a daft kick off time for a friendly.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

What protests are the going fans going to make against the FA & ITV.

I hope it doesn't pass without dogs abuse for the pair of them and can be heard loud,proud and clear on the airways.

BLACK FLAGS

BLACK FLAGS

BLACK FLAGS.

 

[blueparrot]

What protests are the going fans going to make against the FA & ITV.

I hope it doesn't pass without dogs abuse for the pair of them and can be heard loud,proud and clear on the airways.

BLACK FLAGS

BLACK FLAGS

BLACK FLAGS.

None as far as I know.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

None as far as I know.

Well blood well find oot and get back to us.

Todays yoof !!

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Sorry Paul but i wont be watching this friendly on tv. i have no bt sport, sky or other paid channels and never will. As far as going against my wishes, nobody wanted to go against the third reich and risk their lives, but they did because it was the right thing to do.

Luckily for you then, it's on ITV