Josko Gvardiol

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Tony - MCFC said:
Nothing is ever “done” until it’s on the official site. Many throw about “done deal” before it’s official, perhaps people have a different meaning to the word.

Last I heard waiting on Leipzig to sort their signing(s) at the back then final negotiations will commence for Gvardiol.

The message around City walking away is a general statement around every player we go for, Gvardiol no different.
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Our financial style is to value an asset then try to buy it. If it becomes an auction we do not usually participate unless it has not reached our valuation.

This is how other sectors of business and industry behave so why should football be any different?
 
SilverFox2 said:
Our financial style is to value an asset then try to buy it. If it becomes an auction we do not usually participate unless it has not reached our valuation.

This is how other sectors of business and industry behave so why should football be any different?
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Football is an inherently different industry. The dynamic of footballs assets (i.e the players), means it becomes an auction. The only way that changes is if a player agitates for a particular club and rules out anyone else.

What makes this deal frustrating is a lack of other bidders in the auction house. In this instance, the asset wants City and City only. The price is set but we won't meet it.

Which of these two scenarios is better?

A.) We walk away and have an extra £15 million to put on the books.

B.) We pay a justifiably record fee and get the best young defender on the planet giving us a decade of service.

It's a fucking no-brainer. It's what makes the Rice situation galling; we've got an extra ~£10-15mil in the bank when we could have had a top class/potentially world class DM in our ranks to play a double pivot or deputise for Rodders should he suffer a lengthy injury. And we could have had him for years.

There's little justification for us to be scrimping given the position of financial power our chairman states we're now in and the stature our club currently holds.
 
Blue and true said:
Football is an inherently different industry. The dynamic of footballs assets (i.e the players), means it becomes an auction. The only way that changes is if a player agitates for a particular club and rules out anyone else.

What makes this deal frustrating is a lack of other bidders in the auction house. In this instance, the asset wants City and City only. The price is set but we won't meet it.

Which of these two scenarios is better?

A.) We walk away and have an extra £15 million to put on the books.

B.) We pay a justifiably record fee and get the best young defender on the planet giving us a decade of service.

It's a fucking no-brainer. It's what makes the Rice situation galling; we've got an extra ~£10-15mil in the bank when we could have had a top class/potentially world class DM in our ranks to play a double pivot or deputise for Rodders should he suffer a lengthy injury. And we could have had him for years.

There's little justification for us to be scrimping given the position of financial power our chairman states we're now in and the stature our club currently holds.
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Not saying that this would happen with Josko, but it could transpire it doesn't ork out for us. There is more to it than simply paying up expecting a guarantee
 
mosssideblue said:
Not saying that this would happen with Josko, but it could transpire it doesn't ork out for us. There is more to it than simply paying up expecting a guarantee
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Of course, there is always risk. But all business has an element of risk. It's about making risky decisions. Given what we already know about Gvardiol, and the esteem he's already held in, it's highly unlikely he becomes anything other than a star and one of the best in his position. If Madrid sign him next season, and he goes on the win several CL titles with them, that extra £15mil in our bank will feel valueless.
 
Blue and true said:
Of course, there is always risk. But all business has an element of risk. It's about making risky decisions. Given what we already know about Gvardiol, and the esteem he's already held in, it's highly unlikely he becomes anything other than a star and one of the best in his position. If Madrid sign him next season, and he goes on the win several CL titles with them, that extra £15mil in our bank will feel valueless.
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Thankfully, we are not paid to take those risks
 
Blue and true said:
Football is an inherently different industry. The dynamic of footballs assets (i.e the players), means it becomes an auction. The only way that changes is if a player agitates for a particular club and rules out anyone else.

What makes this deal frustrating is a lack of other bidders in the auction house. In this instance, the asset wants City and City only. The price is set but we won't meet it.

Which of these two scenarios is better?

A.) We walk away and have an extra £15 million to put on the books.

B.) We pay a justifiably record fee and get the best young defender on the planet giving us a decade of service.

It's a fucking no-brainer. It's what makes the Rice situation galling; we've got an extra ~£10-15mil in the bank when we could have had a top class/potentially world class DM in our ranks to play a double pivot or deputise for Rodders should he suffer a lengthy injury. And we could have had him for years.

There's little justification for us to be scrimping given the position of financial power our chairman states we're now in and the stature our club currently holds.
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Rice didn’t want us mate so it was never going to happen and we knew it . If he would have angled a move for us then I think we would have gone for him but I do believe we should be paying this extra money to get this defender because yes we have walked away from players before and it’s served us well but that will not always happen and it will bite us one day. I also believe that the Laporte deal is holding this up even though we say it has no bearing .
 
Blue and true said:
Football is an inherently different industry. The dynamic of footballs assets (i.e the players), means it becomes an auction. The only way that changes is if a player agitates for a particular club and rules out anyone else.

What makes this deal frustrating is a lack of other bidders in the auction house. In this instance, the asset wants City and City only. The price is set but we won't meet it.

Which of these two scenarios is better?

A.) We walk away and have an extra £15 million to put on the books.

B.) We pay a justifiably record fee and get the best young defender on the planet giving us a decade of service.

It's a fucking no-brainer. It's what makes the Rice situation galling; we've got an extra ~£10-15mil in the bank when we could have had a top class/potentially world class DM in our ranks to play a double pivot or deputise for Rodders should he suffer a lengthy injury. And we could have had him for years.

There's little justification for us to be scrimping given the position of financial power our chairman states we're now in and the stature our club currently holds.
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Our finances have got to their current state by applying rules that City decide. Surely they won't change this just because they cannot get their target at their valuation.

In other words we can afford it because we use these financial rules rather than its there to spend.

Whether auction or not we have maximum values for players we want.

Our budget is the maximum that we have decided to spend from which we generate profit if possible by negotiation.

Why should we see any budget as if it was public sector money and must spend it or lose it irrespective of value?
 
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