Newcastle (A) | Wed 27th Sept | EFL Cup | Post Match Thread

Good 1st half without taking advantage and putting the ball into the net.

Second half was poor. Didn’t match the Geordies willingness and we came out second to everything. Chasing the game at the end to no avail. Kova & Gvardiol made a mess of the goal imo.

Nunes & Doku look quality. Oscar looked good but tired. Phillips not great. Some good stuff but still looks away off the level required. Jack also looked way off the pace. Akanji was on it.

All in all it’s probably for the best and I don’t say that in a don’t give a fuck way. Far too many games this season with a lot of injures and new players to bed in. Football was completed last season and I am grateful to all that helped the club achieve that unbelievable feat. We go again but with nothing to prove.

Newcastle deserved to win. Let’s hope the drop off without rodders is not so noticeable next game.

Getting beat is sometimes needed to get bit of perspective.

The sky show was awful and full of shit. Glad I don’t pay for it. We broke them last season, never forget. City as a club won.
 
Was at the game and was really impressed with the composure and pattern of play in the 1st half. There were however two niggles that came back to bite us in the 2nd.
For all the possession, we actually created very few if any great chances. A goal would have been deserved. Secondly, Kalvin doesn’t seem to play with belief. It’s like he has taken Pep’s ball retention policy much too literally - there is almost no risk (and hence attacking potential) to anything he does. At Leeds and in earlier England games he believed in himself and played naturally without thinking. If you watch him now you can almost hear the cogs turning in his brain. I am convinced there is a brilliant footballer in there, but not sure we are ever going to see it under Pep.
Yes we lost control in 2nd half, but Bobb tiring, Jack & Kova just back from injury, it just didn’t happen. Despite how apparently brilliant barcodes were Rico should have got us a draw. Not really a result to get too worked up about, but never like losing.
For me this season is purely about 4 in a row. Everything else is secondary.
 
Phillips is surely done now, he could make a decent career at a mid to bottom team such as Bournemouth or a team challenging in the championship but we need to put him behind us now before he becomes our Phil Jones
 
1st half we bossed the game and played some great stuff but with no killer edge

2nd half they had to come at us, huge game for them as no way are Newcastle winning any of the top 3 trophies, this is the only cup they have a chance in

Met a Geordie at the coaches on the way home and he was full of praise for city. He said he loves Pep and what the club is about

I was a bit gobsmacked as it is rare you hear glowing tributes from opposing fans

Told me he hates the rags and dippers

Then dropped in although he a toon fan his dad is a blue and from Cumbria who has a season ticket at City and goes every home game

This lad himself was late 50s so god knows the age of his dad but he was also at st James as a kid in 1968
 
Got back at 1.40am - about the only highlight was the clear run home after getting out of Newcastle

After the first half I was confident we would win so God knows what happened in the 2nd half

Oh well can't win them all but my 10 year old loved her first away day so for me that makes the whole day and expenses more than worth it

Up the blues
 
lazerblue said:
Phillips is surely done now, he could make a decent career at a mid to bottom team such as Bournemouth or a team challenging in the championship but we need to put him behind us now before he becomes our Phil Jones
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We ain't gonna win a treble with him as DM.
 
I'm not making excuses but I feel we truly did not put forth the effort to chase that goal after being pretty dominant the first half. Gotta admit I'm getting more and more pissed at how much time wasting Howe is clearly drilling into his team as a tactic.

Meh, not happy we lost but really happy to get some breathing room now the least valuable trophy is unattainable.

I'm very disappointed in Philips performance. I felt he was ineffective, slow and looking to get rid vs do anything with the ball. I'd rather give Gvadiol a shot at the 6 than Philips.
 
I normally don’t look at player ratings, but I looked at a few for this game. On one site, Gvardiol and Phillips shared the worst rating of the team (4). And on another Akanji had the worst rating of the team (5). Seemed harsh for the two defenders? Should I be ignoring these sites and get my hot takes here?!?
 
Phil1 said:
Depends, are you a real person with their own thoughts and opinions. Or a stupid **** who needs to have their hand held when crossing the road.
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In all seriousness, I have my own thoughts, but I’m also an American who hasn’t watched football that long in the scheme of things. So I’m not always the best judge…I think…but trying to make myself a more educated viewer.
 
US47Blue said:
No reason to be aggressive? I’ve always been a massive supporter of Grealish and my opinion today is nothing about him as an overall player. However, he shouldn’t get a pass as an auto first team selection. Pep has treated people like Foden in the same exact way, and you can use last season as an example. Foden had to work his way back in, the same way Grealish should. Doku was miles better today, and has shown tremendous improvement just within a a few games under Pep.
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He's 2 games back from being out with an injury. This game meant fuck all apart from minutes in his legs. We weren't arsed about going through. Why on earth do people think otherwise?
 
Just my own personal take ...on the carabora cup.
The competition is sponsored by a drinks company.
The drink is full of sugar.
Sugar Feeds Cancer.
It's an absolute disgrace that young footballers/school kids are blantly exposed to this carcogenic brand.
Yet.... we still search for the answer / cure for Cancer...
I,m glad City are out of it.
Drinks laden with sugar ,should not be the the sponsors of any Football competition.

Rant over.
 
Meh Clear we weren’t bothered really. Played some nice stuff in first half but no one really went for it. I think there was some practice around sound shape/formations etc coaching and movement. No real desire to risk injuries or suspensions. It’s a competition too far with the injuries, suspension and squad refresh.
 
bumbleblue said:
Meh Clear we weren’t bothered really. Played some nice stuff in first half but no one really went for it. I think there was some practice around sound shape/formations etc coaching and movement. No real desire to risk injuries or suspensions. It’s a competition too far with the injuries, suspension and squad refresh.
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Th Cara Cup is a chance to play those on the edges of the squad. Only teams that never win anything try hard to win it.
 
It is an “also-rans” competition that helps put silverware in the cabinets of teams that don’t win much.

When that was us, it mattered. Now? Not so much!

Domestically, City are ALL about Top 4. From there, challenging for the top spot.

Internationally, City are about getting to at least the Semi-Finals of the Champions League every year.

Top 4 and CL SF puts the money into the club that it needs to continue to grow both competitive and commercial revenues, allowing the model to work.

More than 1 year out of the CL blows up FFP.

Against that business case backdrop, the Carabao Cup is a very distant 4th competition…and we have proved it three seasons in a row now, while winning a Treble Treble!
 
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