PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Their new Chelsea\Norwich\rag supporting investor owns French club Nice. They are second place in the league at the moment and apparently they would displace the rags in the cl if they finished in a higher league position. Now that would be funny.

It won’t be an issue, similar to Girona qualifying wouldn’t be one for us.

Clickbait nonsesne.

 

[nmc]

I’m sure this question has been asked before but, if UEFA led by Gill and Parry et al could find us guilty of ‘cooking the books’ in their internal UEFA panel / procedure - when in actual fact they had no evidence whatsoever when they arrived as CAS - whats to stop the PL doing the same - with Gill once again in the thick of it. And why did no one at UEFA ask the question as to why they were made to look such dicks in front of CAS. Any competent or honest organisation would have reviewed its processes and procedures after that shambles. The concern here is we have no right of appeal and no genuinely independent arbitrator In the PL case.

 

[decmancity]

It really is not.

Oh yes it is.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Was that the Etihad time barred stuff or something else?

What was time-barred was any transactions that appeared in the accounts in 2011/12 & 2012/13.

The Etihad payments that CAS examined covered 2012/13, 2013/14 and 2015/16. So that first period was time-barred but that's completely irrelevant as CAS were clear that:

1. Etihad had met its obligation under the contract.
2. There was no problem with it being fair value.
3. Etihad had full value from the sponsorship.
4. ADUG did not provide any of the funds to Etihad.

Payments made in 2012/13 made absolutely no difference to that.

Etisalat was the other, and that covered both of the time-barred years. However CAS covered it fully as ADUG seemingly made the original payment but got the money back from Etisalat in 2014/2015, which wasn't outside the allowable timescale.

Again, both CAS and even UEFA were happy that there was no issue with the Etisalat contract. Etisalat had met their obligations and received fair value for that sponsorship.

Time-barring had zero impact on the outcome of the CAS case. None.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Discussed again yesterday by Jordan, White and Murphy, no mention of the reason the k.o. time was altered but at least Jordan had a go at Klopp's whinging. Murphy going on about the rivalry with the rags still being bigger because of the sheer hatred between them, not that anyone I know gives a shit about two clubs who don't have a great history of going head to head against each other, but it's obvious he's never witnessed the antics of his clubs feral support base live in a game against City.

The point is that it’s an early game for us as well as them so where’s the disadvantage to the moaning, bus wrecking, child maiming, piss throwing cunts?

 

[Bantamgaz]

The only thing you lot have done wrong is being successful and this is the real heart of the matter.
Had you done nothing and not done a thing then i doubt this stuff would have happened.
just pray to god you aint because that would be a massive blow to the media and the gloryhunting cunts they creep up to

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

I thought it was the home game against Bury?

Definitely Bury at home
It was John Tague from Marple who was in my school year at Marple Ridge, and a bit of a character.

The next time I saw him was in the Goyt Pub in Whaley Bridge, (after the 1-0 win at Macclesfield) the following September when he told me that despite all the media attention, he'd actually been banned from Maine Road for life.

I last saw him at Newcastle when Goater notched the winner in the snow, but I've since been informed, (funnily enough by a Bury supporter who was writing a book about the 97-98 season) that he now resides in Southport, and that despite now enjoying City's success, he prefers to have a Season Ticket at Haig Avenue.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

Tony Dinning giving it the big 'un in front of the North Stand after scoring that penalty. Our derby match that season was Stock-fucking-port. Just think on that.

Oldham was the biggest match of the season for me. The away game was great. The Chaddie was full of City fans. Boom boom scored a wonder goal. Great times.

 

[Prophet of Doom]

There's nothing to disagree with here. I'm still holding out some ridiculous feint hope that Pablo Peroni is onto something, but if something sounds too good to be true it usually is. So yeah, it's avoiding being found guilty of the most serious charges which is paramount to our future. The stuff about what we give to the league or what they'd miss out on is just unfounded arrogance imo, they'd love to punish us.

Love reading Pablo’s

I think where lots of posters have misinterpreted your original post is that they think you were saying we will be relegated rather than we could easily be if found guilty of substantive charges.

That, unfortunately, is highly probable. The PL is throwing everything at this case and if they can land some or all of the most serious charges then any punishment will be draconian. All the points you make in your post are correct in my view. The PL won't collapse if we aren't in it and no rival club is fucking off to a Fantasy Super League. It's a huge win for our rivals if we are out of the equation.

I probably didn’t word things correctly.

I’m sure we will get away the main charges and get a huge fine related to non-cooperation.

But the alternative is unthinkable.

The shitstorm if the charges stand is the potential claims other clubs would have on us over the 10 years - these could run in to serious £100s of millions.

The PL already know the claims clubs have against Everton could see Everton go into admnistration. But that is chicken feed compared to us.

My original post was really just to state we have virtually no allies in football - be it teams media and governing bodies.

They all want us down

 

[Nightmare Walking]

I must admit that I'm impressed with some of the things the Everton fans are doing around this. Rather than just moaning about it, their fanbase has been totally galvanised into action

To be fair, they have not been subjected to it for 10 years like we have. The novelty will wear off.

 

[Coatigan]

Oh yes it is.

Pretty low bar for incredible then.

 

[Bez]

We were cleared of the main financial charges at CAS, so why is the PL case any different. Unless they have some new evidence I don't see how they can even consider a points deduction or worse a relegation. They may try to argue non co-operation, but even if this is proven by an impartial tribunal, that does not warrant a points deduction or relegation. So, based on the CAS case we may be looking at a fine for non co-operation, assuming we really did not co-operate.

 

[burning blue soul]

And the Engineers. And the Wanderers.

That Engineers defeat was a real spanner in the works.

 

[Pelegrinni]

Everton fans should push the PL to reveal the exact amount of United FFP breach.
Then we can compare the punishment dished out for consistency.

 

[Bald fraud]

4th might not be enough for them if Nice finish 3rd (or above) allegedly, due to Ineos ownership of both clubs….

Fair do’s. Does the same happen with us and Girona though?

 

[Bald fraud]

Nah, i reckon the PL will deduct us 'only' about 10 pts but they'll do it towards the end of a season when it'll cause us most damage & we'll lose out on a title.
If they deducted 10 pts at the start of the season, there'd be hell to pay if we still went on & won the league.
Deny us a title and the redshirts will be happy

This is what I think will happen. A points deduction that will see us miss out on top 4. And give the scum and the victim a chance to catch up

 

[Bald fraud]

Everton fans should push the PL to reveal the exact amount of United FFP breach.
Then we can compare the punishment dished out for consistency.

Thick fuckers are too busy crying what about city! Numb ass piss stones! Guaranteed this banner they’re flying over will be about us. It should be about the rags. Also. They soon got 40 grand together I reckon this is being funded externally

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

The Premier league are already regretting the panel's decision to deduct Everton ten points and the fall out that will cause with several clubs claiming compensation , if they took points from us the compensation claims would increase ten fold.
They have no choice but to change the punishment and fine Everton with a possible transfer ban , if they do not ,the shit will hit the fan and the litigation will go on for years ,the Premier league have shot themselves in the foot just to appease two arrogant , self entitled , greedy bastard football clubs. If Master's and his cronies dont buck their ideas up , the Premier league in its current guise is f*cked and a European Super League will be on the agenda again.

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

If you want to know more then there are ways to try and find things out.

What the media are choosing to do at the moment is ride off the back of Everton's point deduction and get clicks by talking about relegation. You've got Liverpool fans dreaming up scenarios where we're out of the football league and Gerrard is on an open top bus with a PL winners medal. The Express ran a fan poll and guess what, they want us relegated! The majority don't have a clue what's going on. Our charges are much harder to prove than Everton's as theirs was a "simple" profit and loss case and ours is looking at whether we've inflated sponsorships and revenues which will be a minefield. 28,000 documents were used by Everton's defence team. We'll have a fair few more than that!

TBF mate there is one fucking idiot on here who has presented the most unlikely scenario that City are coming out of this smelling of roses before the season end and with the help of our friends from down the East Lancs. And others.
YCMIU.

But heard he's out with his little ITK a week tonight. Can't wait for him to post more mad shit.

NB Keep the faith we've got this.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

TBF mate there is one fucking idiot on here who has presented the most unlikely scenario that City are coming out of this smelling of roses before the season end and with the help of our friends from down the East Lancs. And others.
YCMIU.

But heard he's out with his little ITK a week tonight. Can't wait for him to post more mad shit.

NB Keep the faith we've got this.

There's a *LOT* riding on this.


You better not let us down!!!